+ 20 Elites var mass specs
43%pure....Let me also start by saying that I'm not doing this to glorify or discredit this or any source. This is clearly for quality and control. It's nice to see the quality of a product your going to use and be able to adjust the dose or simply don't use it for control.
If I went off just my labels....well I'd think I'd be at 600test/400npp/100var..when really Im getting 425test/240npp/40var. You could adjust to make this work...but you chances are you'll run out..maybe encounter more sides..ect. But atleast I know and I could prevent my cycle from falling flat on its face
Elites been around and in the rankings for awhile, I'm sure their not dicking anyone over/scamming/whatever you want to call it. This isn't and wasn't their one and only batch. It's just unfortunate these came up alittle short.
I'm sure they'll work out the issue and keep us posted on future proven quality.
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Any update to this thread? I ordered quite a bit of var from EA 45 days ago.
It so sad..people that don't know how to read the test make assumptions and smear a top source. Even if it's on accident it's a shame
ZewiAnabolXOur Var50's weight is 235mg's on avg..
ZewiAnabolXVar raws being sent in for real purity test..
So what I gathered from yesterday, you take 235 weight X .43 Purity and you have 101% purity? AMEN Brother!
Doesn't anyone here have a freakin' scale? Lets put this to bed.
BillLumberghI have a nice mcg scale! send me some var bitches lol.
AnonI have no scale but send me some var to lmao
Wow.. I'm holding off from ordering right now. I not a fan of this news.
I had success with their products when they first started. But I'll think I'll wait for now. Was looking to stock up for next fall cycle.
+1 for test
+1 for testing this is what I love about this site, people getting involved to help the sources stay straight and we know what the heck is going into our bodies Thanx!!
Anon+1
I am no fan boy, but I have run this product with great results. This batch could be different of course, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating after all. Orals are different as you all know. If it is dosed correctly it will still blow your hair back
Appreciate the labs my friend +1
angusHoly shit, I'm just seeing this now for the first time. We need to back the fuck up for a second and look at a few things first. 43% for a finished oral is a very nice purity rating. ALL orals come back with a low purity because of the density of the products that surround the active ingredient. We could isolate the analyte (in this case anavar) using the HPLC Column test and then test it for purity but it would be skewed because we separated it from the rest of the sample. But when we compare it with the molecular weight of the excipients and binders used to make the pill it becomes very low. That's not fair to the source. What is the weight of this pill? and then 43% of that weight is analyte? I'd say this is a powerful pill. The truest way to gauge is from testing the raw. Someone throw this oral on a scale and let me know.
I've had elite tabs and it's approximately the size of a tylenol so approximately between 300 and 500mg if it's 43% of total weight then it's way way way overdosed. Unless I'm missing something I think purity shouldn't be calculated from total weight if it's from the sample weight it would still equate to the same over dosage the purity therefore has to be calculated in relation to the stated dose that is the only way these results make any sense.
AnonI remember you saying something like that on another oral test. So that's why i didn't start the bashing.so can we find out the weight so we can find out how good these really are
BillLumberghexactly. some one get on the scale.
My take on mass spec test with orals is just test the Raws. When you test the finished product you should just look to make sure it's properly dosed. Now on oils testing finished product is fine.
AnonYes i agree. I am also no master at mass spec so i didn't jump in the convo. If it was IGF or Gh serum testing i would have been all on it lol
You're one of the more knowledgeable members here Brutha man. But I agree, ANGUS can explain all this more accurately. I say, just the fact that it's actually ANAVAR is a plus. You can see that faked many times over. I think it could be something as easy as an inconsistent batch mixed for pressing maybe. When it comes to tablets, their can be some inconsistencies from batch to batch and probably even tablet to tablet. I'm sure it will all get worked out. It not like you can just walk into a pharmacy and get a prescription of ANAVAR filled.
Anonthanks brotha, And yes its good to see it is var, so much winny being soft for double the price and passed off as var. I wish i could just walk into a pharmacy and get var. gonna give it a try tom lol
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkThis is the only reason testing took place...to assure this is actually var.
ZewiAnabolXAnd that is why we are sending the RAWS in for testing.. Than you all can see the real purity of the product.
Yes sir Brutha. And we appreciate ya sharing the info.
That is very true. I remember lurking in another sources SI and he said he prefers selling capsules over tablets because the consistency with accurate dosing is much higher than with tabs.
These guys are highly in demand and we can assume that they are working overtime producing product. Issues happen from time to time. If there is an issue I highly doubt anything was done intentional. Maybe it's a purity issue with their source which IS NOT uncommon and no fault of the source. I'm sure everything will get handled if there is found to be any issue at all.
I agree with you. I would never question Zewi and Mak's integrity. I know they would never intentionally try to pull some shady shit. Also, everyone who has been active in the e-roids community should know most of these sources if not all get their raws from China. We know they're all about their money and maximizing profit at all cost. "F the White man"... They might start off sending the sources them "fire raws" and then pull a 180. I KNOW their Anavar is great. I have ran another sources var at the same dosage and I thought that it was great but had nothing to compare it to and then when I ran EA's Var I experienced the skin ripping painful pumps that made me stop my workout. Literally felt like my muscles were going to tear through my skin. I remember one day sitting in my car for 30 minutes with the most painful bicep pumps praying for it to stop so I could drive home lol. Felt like they had their own heart beat.
BillLumberghEvery blood test/mass spec on all of their stuff has been exceptional.
If this tab weighs out to 250mg or whatever the exact math comes out to then we have a nice product..
BillLumberghthat's what I was thinking. thanks for the insight.
116 mg total weight or more is the ticket.
RustyhookerIf a processed tab has the obvious binders/fillers then separating the tabs fillers to see the var is correct by weight/dose and not the tab as a whole.
I thought 43% at a cursory glance for a finished oral seemed to be ok. Thanks big man for perspective.
Before we get out the pitch forks, ropes and torches let's give Zewi a chance to straighten it out. He seems to be actively working to right things.
+1 for testing homie. Thanks
ZewiAnabolXWe are on this and going to make this right cause that's what we do
I'll hold you to it Zewi.
ZewiAnabolXGood I expect you too.. I use my own gear so we are testing everything again like we did when we started we put trust in our raw guy but I see we need to get this fixed and we will
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So there is 20mg var in the 50mg tab? +1
I believe so...21.5mg or something.
Anonwow makes me wonder about some of their other products such as Tren, Primo and Mast??? Esp Mast since people including myself are using it as an Ai..... +1 for testing wish more people would check these sources instead of sucking em off... Fuckin Fan Boys....
ZewiAnabolXLook up the primo 93% Tren was 93% they have been posted
AnonSorry Bro but mass specs that are older than a month old dont mean shit to me... Ill be getting some mass specs done on your Mast E cause im very curious now...
ZewiAnabolXGood do it I expected it.. and I'm all for it.. as u can see we are sending our raws to a independent lab tomorrow on the npp and the var we hold ourselfs to a higher standerd and we are fixing this asap
AnonThank you for doing it I would love to see new specs done on all of your raws... im just saying people that have been around eroids for awhile kno that sources check all there raws when they start up but then alot of times it falls by the wayside do to circumstances ie being busy as hell and trusting your raws source...
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonX2 I agree. Part of responsibility falls on all of us to make sure the RAWs suppliers and the sources stay on point.
ZewiAnabolXTure and I'm all for holding us to the fire
And these are the guys who constantly talk shit on their SI about their customers. Unfortunately this test doesn't surprise me :/
ZewiAnabolXNo we don't
So now I'm a liar? I've seen you bad mouth customers on your SI hundreds of times. Including myself..its all good I took the bad mouthing like a man cuz I thought I was getting really good gear. I might have but I didn't get it tested so idk really