posted Tue, 01/21/2014 - 14:00
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1st tren E run
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34 yo
5'11"
185
Bf 12% roughly
8Th cycle and looking for opinions.
Test e or c have both 300mg 1-16
Tren E 600mg 1-12
Eq 750-1000mg 1-15
Kick with test p 50 EOD 1-4
Tren e 100mg EOD 1-4
This is my first run with tren e.
Last cycle was
Tren a 100mg end
Test p 75mg ed
Mast 50 end
10 weeks
Had almost 0 sides from tren and loved it.
Ai and caber always on hand
Solid pct.
Concerned about the eq. I hear guys raving about these together but worried about RBC count. What do you guys think?
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Only comment I have to make is tren a and tren e don't necessarily relate in any way in terms of sides you experience. I can run tren a at big doses with only a little insomnia and sweating. Even on low doses of tren e, I struggle and am an utter arsehole to be around. You may not be the same, but just be aware of it as if it gets messy you'll be 15-20 days before you gone out the other side.
GearofWarStrangely enough I have relatively NOTHING for side at 600mg of Tren-E EW, but if I'm on say 75mg of Ace EOD I get sides like sweating like whore in church 24/7, shortness of breath, and mild BPH issues. I feel as if my gains are better on Ace though. The only problem I was having with the Tren-E was some extreme lethargy very early on in the cycle.
I had lethargy early in too but I believe the flu had something to do with it.. EOD gives me sides on ace too.. ED not so much
That's the tough thing about this game, we're all different. Gotta know your own body.
Me too!... i can take gallons of ACE without any issues but!.. E and HEX turn me into a fkn animal... i have to police myself BIG TIME! or i am sure i could end up in prison.
This is my first time with tren E but I'm pretty damn calm even in situations I'd normally bite someone's head off.. I've been pinning it monday, weds, friday.. instead of twice a week.. dunno if you've tried that
Tried all ways bro... usually gets a grip on me after week 10.... when i run it for 20wks it becomes real bad.
You must look like granite after 20 weeks LOL.. I'm up in the air about how long I may run this.. bloods will prlly answer that for me.. it's looking like I'll handle this cycle fine as long as I don't get sick anymore
I have tren E running right now bro and alls good so far....... i refuse to give my cycle in open forum for reasons you are well aware of lol........ only 2 people on eroids know my current stack thats suzy b and hollywood... im never being accused again of "well vike runs this so i can shit".... its bad for business brother :))
LOL "guys guys hold my beer I got this! If vike can do this I can do it for my 2nd cycle!!"
How long have you been on
btw our cycles are basically the same moderate test.. my eq is 900 and tren is 600
Keep me updated please.
5 weeks... I could feel the stuff kicking in by the 2nd week.. it's hard not to notice when tren kicks in besides the bad sweats from loading carbs
Thanks for the info. I've heard a lot of people say its different. That's why I created this post.
like roid noid says down below... drop the tren kicker until you fully get to grips with the E..... leave that for down the road brother.
And again!... i will say if you feel totally shit and suffer badly ... DROP IT OUT THE STACK!.. there are NO medals being handed out for toughing something out when you dont really have to..... no tapering and that shit.. kill it dead and swap for Deca.
That's my concern...don't want to be a dick or deal with sides
Put it this way, I won't run tren e anymore. My mrs described me as "scarey" last time I ran it, that's enough for me to bin it. To be honest I'd rather run deca anyway to bulk. No poorer results and I enjoy the cycle rather than battling side effects.
one thing you need to know about tren is sides can change from one cycle to the next, personally I would recommend dropping the tren kicker and just wait out the tren-e..... The next thing is drop the tren-e dose down to 500 until week 6-7 and then bump to 600.... 450-500mg/w is right around where my sides start to amplify, while some say that their tren-e sides stay for a few weeks mine drop off after day 4 after I stop the compound....EQ also amplifies my tren sides, especially the higher dose EQ which was 1200mg/w for me. So with that in mind, and all the problems tren-e can bring to the table my recommendation would be to keep it a little simpler and replace the EQ with mast-e. its a cycle you already ran so you got a good idea of what to expect. and youll be able to see if there is any differences between the short and long esters. in which case I would also drop cycle to 14 weeks.
test-e 300mg/1-14
tren-e 500mg/w 1-6 600mg/w 7-12
mast-e 500mg/w 1-14
then pct 17-21
^^^ this cycle looks tasty!!!! beast mode for sure!!!! to many issues running the eq @ that dose alongside tren!!! hypertension from hell!!! roid noids cycle lay out is niiice!!
Thanks bro. Heard eq also amps tren e.
When did u finish your Test/Tren/Mast cutter and your PCT and what did your last set of labs say about your current T-level, Estradiol (E2), lipid profile and the like and when were those labs done?
Pct ended end of November. New cycle won't start till march. Test was in the mid 500 and e2 was low can't remember exactly. Will run bloods again before. Labs were done in December.
Have u run plain old Test/Deca/dbol? The BB legends that ran this back in the day as the standard bulker are still alive and kicking. Imagine that. Smh.
Classic mass builder! I've run prop/npp/ dbol and was awesome. Might drop the eq and run tren e/test
Duplicate.
Have u run tren as a bulker before? I cut with it all the time, but honestly, at 36, I just don't dump it in everywhere like when I was a kid. The stuff is just toxic. I can't read Rusty's mind but I think he and I are thinking the same thing with the Tren. And with Tren E, if one of Tren's little annoyances should surface on you it will take weeks to clear. And the last time I ran it, I was less than thrilled with my liver enzymes plus I started to get a weak stream when urinating. There is / was this guy Waltr on here that ran it at the dose I run - everything I and others do after 15 years of AAS use is not a model of anything for the less experienced and he ended up with a catheter shoved up his Johnson to empty his bladder. Prostate enlargement (another Tren special). If the though of Tren just gets your juices flowing and you can't LIVE without it - what can I say?? There just are other alternatives that will make u just as happy.
RustyhookerIf your goal is straight bulk there's many other options with less worry.
Whats the goal bro?
Lean bulk. Would like to end up 10% or lower and 195.
RustyhookerIm still an old fan of test/eq/mast. Roid up top has you lined up on the tren route. Eq depends on ester for length...eq or bold cyp of course. Tren killed my cardio where eq doesn't. Eq boosts appetite thru roof but i found var kills my appetite. So i added var last 6 Weeks. Test/eq 600/600 first half then liw test to let the eq vascularity come out. Mast dries/hardens/blocks so feel your way thru ai if/as needed. The test/eq of course can be changed in doses to custom fit your priors. Some like 600 while others enjoy higher.