Blood test,little confused can someone advise?
stats- 5'10 235lbs 23yo
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was my "precycle" my test levels were 318.
15 months ago i did 5 week cycle of test prop, didnt do a good pre cycle check list and took advice and pct'd
but i guess it was bunk...
I took Mutas and others advise and did a pct again 15 months later and (see above) purchase Peps clomid and nolva is legit!!! test levels raised 500 plus....
pct followed-Aromasin frontload 25/25/12.5/12.5 then 6.25 daily
Clomid Frontload 200/200/150/150 (4 days then run) 150/150/100/100/100/50 (yes, 6 weeks of clomid)
Nolva 20mg-30mg ED.
i got in on a promo from xroids and got some Kalpa Aromasin..
so my questions are...
1. why is my estro so HIGH!!! i isnt aromasin supposed to help with rebound?
2. is my kalpa aromasin bunk?
3. My HDL cholesterol is Low it says?
4. my Neutrophils and Monocytes are high as well? what are they ?
5. I could have sworn that i had a low or shut down Thyroid, i have all the symptoms, am i right or is everything up to par?
6. IGF 111?!?!?!?! im 23 whats up with that?
please feel free to ask any questions id really like some advise from some guys that know how to read between the lines and give me a hand
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You need to give it time as you have not reached Homeostasis yet. Should of waited before running your bloods. 2 weeks after PCT and a long one at that is too soon your not level yet. Here's my take 1. You did not take enough aro during your pct. At the doses you were taking of clomid your test levels were very high and since your carry a bit of body fat that testosterone converted to estro via aromatase enzyme. 6.25 was not going to control that spike. Your not way out of wack. No biggie. 2. I would say your Kapla is not bunk if it was your estro would be over 100. 3. Increased testosterone lower HDL. But you have to understand your Cholesterol is low period. Need to up your lipids. Need to eat more good oils such as coconut oil,grapeseed oil,omega 3's,MTC's etc. Guys who carry body fat think by going low fat they are doing good. The reality is you need fat but the right kinds. Your body uses cholesterol to make hormones like testosterone. 4 Neutro's are your 1st line of defense against bacterial infections you have a bug it's going around even where I live. Monocytes do the same thing but also get rid of any of dead are damaged cells. Both just eat them up and dissolve them to be discarded from the body. No biggy just the start of a bug. I had what I thought was a tooth abcess in Dec and got bloods 3 wks after I finished my antbiotics my wbc was 13.2 and Neutro's were 9.1. A month later WBC was 10.9 so it went down. The point I'm making is your immune system is doing what it is suppose to be doing. Just keep an eye on it if you start to get a fever are feel like your sick get it checked 5 Your thyroid is fine and in range. When ever you check thyroid always check free T3 and T4 with THS more accurate.
6. That is low IGF-1. But i wouldn't panic yet. I think it was the Nolva that lowered your IGF-1 again that was a long PCT with some higher than normal doses.There are numerous studies showing that Nolva lowers IGF-1. Retest in 6-8wks. I would also add Proviron. Will help with the estro and mood. You'll feel a hell of a lot better while you wait. 25-50mgs will not shut you down. I would start with just 25mg.
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DragonovBest way to boost your HDL is start eating more MonoUnsaturated and Polyunsaturated Fats which are your almonds, nuts, cashews, Avocados fish oil etc....
It'll get back to normal with good diet and laying off the Testosterone
Exogenous Testosterone lowers HDL
MakaveliCD7I would definitely look into ur aromasin brother....how much aromasin are u taking?
HDL is low bc u r using test....mine was actually 17....just hit the fish oil hard and put flax seed in ur protein drinks to help raise that up
As far as neutro and monos it could be from u being sick or ur body defense against the exogenous hormones ur putting in u....remember juice lowers our immune system bc our body constantly fights it and then kinda adjust ..for example the test flu
Ur thyroid is just fine according to those numbers so the problems ur having may be something else
IGF can drop if u are sick or been sick no matter if ur young so don't sweat it bc it will rise
I hope this helps u brother
I'm only 2 weeks from pct, I am NOT on test, but I'll Deff get some flax and take more fish oil, thanks bro
My asin was dosed as follows 25/25/12.5/12.5 then 6.25 daily
But I will Deff get throw away my kalpa aromasin, and get new ai before I proceed
MakaveliCD7Maybe that aromasin is weak...did u try running it at 12.5 daily? Because yes ur estrogen is up but definitely not as bad as I have seen before but only about 30 points off so u really don't have much to go....that's a good thing tho....I also see u were on the amoxicillin so that explains some of the WBC being elevated bc of illness. ...I'm glad to see ur horses got up and running to put ur test level back up to optimal as well
i am not taking anything right now, i am just barley 2-3 weeks out from "pct"
i was sick when i took these tests and have since been on a amoxicillin 10 day course
so that could be that, funny didnt think i needed to mention it but i guess its ALL relevant!
QtripsThere's your reason for your immune markers being high, and possibly igf-1 being low - cause you were sick! It all comes into play. Labs are very fickle and often those minor details go unknown.
What are you taking right now, aas wise?
Neutrophils and Monocytes are types of white blood cells.
You're barely over the high side on those. Could be a signs of allergies, virus, some kind of sickness you've had or are fighting off.
QtripsOkay, I'm going to do my best to help:
-neutrophils being that high can be good (they fight invaders in body), or they can be bad (meaning said neutrophils are that high because they ARE fighting invaders in the body). Or, it could just be inflammation. This would definitely require a doctor with knowledge on blood (a hemotologist) and more labs.
-Cholesterol being that low is not good, don't care what anyone says. HDL is worse (I thought mine was bad!) Start eating eggs. And eggs. And eggs. As for HDL, I'm trying niacin, cayenne, high dha/epa figh oil, etc. to try and bring it up.
-That TSH is getting a little high, but TSH is useless. To assess true thyroid status you need : free T3, free T4, Reverse T3. Trust me on this.
-Your total t and free t are good, but if your igf-1, estradiol, and thyroid suck (along with possible inflammation or something due to high neutrophils), who cares? These are more important to take care of than T for well-being. Note: cayenne purportedly raises igf-1.
-I'm not too experienced with aromasin so can't give advice there. And I hope that Kalpa ain't bunk cause I got Kalpa test e from that promo.
You need a good doctor. (NOT a doctor who's going to tell you everything is normal, cause it's clearly not) Hopefully there's an underlying cause here (possibly the invader thing) that's throwing other stuff off and correcting that will cause the others to improve.