posted Tue, 11/19/2013 - 07:08
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+ 1 Pre cycle labs, need help with some of these numbers
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So here it's is my lab results from this week
Stats: 23yo
235
Bf kinda high between 15-20 idk? I got some pics posted
Over a year ago I did 5 weeks of test p, didn't follow the pre cycle check list and had to pct after week 5...normal 4 wk pct protocol
Althought It was research chemical nova and clomid but I felt FINE, never did blood test
Didn't really know how easy it was until now
So how low is this low test reading for my age?
Anything else to be concerned about?
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An estradiol reading on the higher end of the spectrum really isn't related to higher BF specifically. I know mine is that high btwn cycles and my BF % is typically at 10 or below. I have a pic posted of my abs to verify, lol.
That's very low. What time you took the test? You need to find out if you have primary or secondary hypo. One you can fix the other you can not and it's trt. At your age there can be a variance of 30-35% in your levels when natural depending on the time of day. All labs recommend that your tested between 7-10am when your levels are at their highest. LabCorp recommends 8am for the most accurate test.Got another question have you taken any prohormones or supplements the past year? Been seeing a lot of mid-low 300's lately on 22-24yr olds.
I ate at 11 o clock at night and fasted 12 hrs and took test about 12 noon next day
Was August 2012, about 16 months ago
Other than that just:
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Hey Pull its been almost two years. I would think after that long your test levels would return naturally. In my opinion you just might have low test levels. Its not unheard of for someone of your age to have low t levels.
Yeah, your estro is relatively high and your test is really low for your age:
http://imperialendo.co.uk/mohr.pdf
Your levels should be upwards of 500+, ideally in the 800 - 900 range.
Follow the advice below and do another PCT. The issue is hormones in the human body have a set point, and your body works hard to maintain that set point. (Look up the relationship between estro and LHRH / LH, and test / estro levels relative to aromatase.)
If your previous PCT was shitty, your body's set point is just fucked up. Another go around for PCT might help.
Also, get your free / total levels checked next time, total isn't nearly as useful as free, when it comes to determining test deficiency. It's possible your free levels are fine.
Regardless though, PCT!
his estro is not high at all. I think the 15% BF is inaccurate estimate. More closer to high 20's. That could be why his estro is on the higher end of normal, but still not enough to matter.
true 320 is low test for just about anyone under 50 years of age.
You're right. It's high within the acceptable range is what I meant.
Although I don't follow how his BF would affect estro levels. I know higher bf means more estro sides due to insulin sensitivity increases in the fat cells from estrogen. But I thought mainly test and aromatase controlled estrogen levels in men?
Ah nevermind, my question was answered here:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/aromatase-and-ai-dosage
That's at the very low end of the spectrum especially for your age. Unfortunately, most docs will not prescribe until you are below 250. Mine was at 139 at 23yo and Im on TRT now.
your pct appears to have been bunk or underdosed. I recommend you run an hcg blast with another pct from a legitimate source
Even after a year my levels can still be low due to that 5 wk cycle?
Whoa a year huh...I guess it's possible your hpta never returned to homeostasis. Look up dr. Scallys protocol...that's what u need to follow
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Quite low actually. I'm 22, sitting at 543. Estrogen is up there as well, might be because of your BF. higher BF holds more estrogen.
Also should have gotten IGF done as well. No biggie.