I was in my 50's when I started lifting for the first time in decades. I saw my greatest gains within the first year naturally. I might as well have been on steroids.
Diet will be a problem. When you are eating 6 meals a day and the rest of the world is eating 3 (at best) it is a problem.
Until I started to practice what I was reading. I couldn't fathom the nuances such a schedule and meal planning, the diet would take. It is the hardest part. Finding time to go to the gym was easier.
Holding off on your cycle is not a waste of time. In the interim, while you "habitualize" your exercise and diet routine, you are learning and purchasing all that is needed for your cycle. AND POST CYCLE (PCT)
If I infer below what you've done is got your hands on the P90x program and want to toss some test in there to give it that added edge. What good will the test do if you DO NOT KNOW if you have the discipline to finish the program as it is?
As a footnote: Don't do the sust for your first cycle. You'll probably ignore everything I and others have said.
At least look into test E or C as your options
Greg, Thank you for your opinion. The reason i would like to do the P90x programs is because i have done it before and i already know what to do as far as the workouts go. I got some results from it but i did not follow the diet as i needed to. I just wanted to make sure that if the ONLY recommended reason NOT to do the roids before working out for a few months is not to get HURT.
Some guy recommended Sust instead of Test E or C you don't think Sust is good.
Sust has to be a specific blended ratio of esters. And you have no control or guarantee of that blend.
Sust test levels can fluctuate dramatically for your purpose you'd need to pin every other day.
If you use a single long ester like Cypionate or Enanthate you'll better understand its effect on you and can get away with only 2 injections a week (monday and thursday for example).
Still, I would start your diet and training prior to starting the cycle. Think of it as a warm up to your P90x
program. No one jumps out of bed to run a marathon -they train for it.
What's the rush for anyway? You're 27 for god's sake, not an 8 year old waiting for christmas morning.
By waiting you'll get better results and more bang for your buck. Besides, It'll be closer to summer when you can show off your new body.
@Greg Sust seems to get a bum rap but I've used it as a staple to my cycle with tremendous gains pinning every 3rd day. IMO no need to pin EOD with Sus...
I agree that Splack should wait.. Hit it hard for a year then re-evaluate..
should prolly get back to the basics without gear for a few months to make it really worth your money, since you havent worked out for a few months you'll be able to make decent gains naturally. just my 2 cents
So you think if i just start a cycle and work out at the same time i wouldn't make good gains? and if i train for a few months and then start doing it i will get more gains than if i wouldn't train?
of course you will make good gains if you start a cycle right away...but i think you'd gain more and get more out of your money if you get a more solid base before running a cycle...
I know the Diet is the most important thing i understand that part. I just wanted to know about starting a cycle and a workout routine at the same time. just think that the diet is on point...@ZUMBA VIKING
"diet is no problem" "diet is on point" lol that is why i suggest he train naturally and come back...give him time to see if his so called diet is on point
Then you dont need me in here... if you cannot be assed to put together your macro breakdown for me then i cannot be assed giving you first rate knowledge.
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AnonWhat's the diet plan and what's the goal. Short answer is no don't start your cycle until you have adjusted the diet and weightlifting program first.
Think of this financially...
I was in my 50's when I started lifting for the first time in decades. I saw my greatest gains within the first year naturally. I might as well have been on steroids.
Diet will be a problem. When you are eating 6 meals a day and the rest of the world is eating 3 (at best) it is a problem.
Until I started to practice what I was reading. I couldn't fathom the nuances such a schedule and meal planning, the diet would take. It is the hardest part. Finding time to go to the gym was easier.
Holding off on your cycle is not a waste of time. In the interim, while you "habitualize" your exercise and diet routine, you are learning and purchasing all that is needed for your cycle. AND POST CYCLE (PCT)
If I infer below what you've done is got your hands on the P90x program and want to toss some test in there to give it that added edge. What good will the test do if you DO NOT KNOW if you have the discipline to finish the program as it is?
As a footnote: Don't do the sust for your first cycle. You'll probably ignore everything I and others have said.
At least look into test E or C as your options
Greg, Thank you for your opinion. The reason i would like to do the P90x programs is because i have done it before and i already know what to do as far as the workouts go. I got some results from it but i did not follow the diet as i needed to. I just wanted to make sure that if the ONLY recommended reason NOT to do the roids before working out for a few months is not to get HURT.
Some guy recommended Sust instead of Test E or C you don't think Sust is good.
Sust has to be a specific blended ratio of esters. And you have no control or guarantee of that blend.
Sust test levels can fluctuate dramatically for your purpose you'd need to pin every other day.
If you use a single long ester like Cypionate or Enanthate you'll better understand its effect on you and can get away with only 2 injections a week (monday and thursday for example).
Still, I would start your diet and training prior to starting the cycle. Think of it as a warm up to your P90x
program. No one jumps out of bed to run a marathon -they train for it.
What's the rush for anyway? You're 27 for god's sake, not an 8 year old waiting for christmas morning.
By waiting you'll get better results and more bang for your buck. Besides, It'll be closer to summer when you can show off your new body.
@Greg Sust seems to get a bum rap but I've used it as a staple to my cycle with tremendous gains pinning every 3rd day. IMO no need to pin EOD with Sus...
I agree that Splack should wait.. Hit it hard for a year then re-evaluate..
Agreed, still more pinning than needed, and more esters to deal with for a first cycle. And, more apt to dose higher than needed.
Haven't worked out in a few months.
@smd I'm trolling all the time, trolling all the time, trolling all the time....
Eddie Murphy Out!
To answer you question...no. You will end up hurting yourself. And what's your bf and height?
Height 5'11 bf 15%
should prolly get back to the basics without gear for a few months to make it really worth your money, since you havent worked out for a few months you'll be able to make decent gains naturally. just my 2 cents
So you think if i just start a cycle and work out at the same time i wouldn't make good gains? and if i train for a few months and then start doing it i will get more gains than if i wouldn't train?
of course you will make good gains if you start a cycle right away...but i think you'd gain more and get more out of your money if you get a more solid base before running a cycle...
I know the Diet is the most important thing i understand that part. I just wanted to know about starting a cycle and a workout routine at the same time. just think that the diet is on point...@ZUMBA VIKING
How can you say that if the diet is non-existant ??????
"diet is no problem" "diet is on point" lol that is why i suggest he train naturally and come back...give him time to see if his so called diet is on point
Soooooo..... give us an example of "the diet" that will not be a problem please and then i will tell you exactly were you are going wrong bro.
Lol I don't have the exact diet planned out but i am planning on doing one of those P90 diets.
Then you dont need me in here... if you cannot be assed to put together your macro breakdown for me then i cannot be assed giving you first rate knowledge.
Okay thanks