+ 7 Lab Update: Follow up on Rips
11/7/13
3rd pic shows new lab results
After running labs on Oct 7th, I discontinued the Nolvadex, Increased the Aromasin to 25mg a day, Continued the Prami at 0.25mg a day, and started the third Rip kit at 4IU a day.
E2 is way up....will add in some Hulk Adex to see if I can't get the estrogen down. The Aromasin at 25mg a day isnt cutting it. Really what can you expect when my Test level is running over 6500. Interesting thing is I really dont feel like my E2 is up...Any other ideas here would be appreciated.
Prolactin level looks good with the Prami.
And the long anticipated results on the third kit of Rips. After having my IGF-1 fall to 162 on the second kit, it was nice to see the third one showing good results.
10/14/13
After running labs on Sept 18th I immediately started my bulk cycle. Up to this point I was running Hulk TestE 300mg a week along with Rips 4iu's per day.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/hulks-rips-igf-1-462
Bulk Cycle :
TBol 40 mg a day
Hulk TestC 750mg week
Hulk Deca 500mg week
Rips from Hulk 4Iu's a day
Ancillaries from Purchasepeptides:
Nolvadex 20mg a day
Aromasin 6.25 mg twice a day
Prami 0.25mg a day
T4 50mcg a day
From the results you can see that with just alittle over two weeks on Hulk TestC my test level is well over 6000!! My E2 level is slightly elevated but controlled with the Aromasin. My prolactin level is normal range.
Started some T4 as my TSH level was slightly elevated on the previous lab which has brought things back to a more favorable level.
I also donated a nice big fat unit of blood at the American Red Cross to bring down my H&H.
Now the IGF-1. My previous result was 462 and now it has dropped drastically to 162! Few factors involved here but would like to hear what others might think. Factor #1 this lab was drawn on Monday and my last Rips injection was on Friday as I was out of town for work....so the level could have dropped due to not having any GH for two days. Factor #2 Nolvadex is dropping my IGF-1 level...read that it can reduce it by 25%.
Factor #3 bad Rips. Im on the second box now and the 462 level was drawn on the first box.
Would appreciate any and all feed back on these lab results. I think that based on these results both Hulk and Purchasepeptides are suppliers of exceptional products.
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Anonso your igf is now up to, real nice brother
Yeah I definitely like this new number. Lab test was run at 4IU just like before. I can physically feel the difference too. That second kit of Rips was bad. This just helps to re-enforce the importance of running bloods.
I had no idea that by posting some of my blood work would cause such a "s&%$" storm on this forum. My intentions were to see if other more knowledgable members would arrive at the same conclusion as myself. I purposely left information out about that particular kit of Rips to let the lab work do the talking so to say. I appreciate all those that provided useful insight and factual based information in regards to these lab results.
And there will be a follow up to this...now that I have a true baseline IGF-1 of 162! I will run the third Rip kit to see if my IGF-1 goes up. So far the injections have been pain free just like with the first kit. Time will tell with the IGF. And if you still don't understand how to test for the authenticity of GH....see Empee's post below!! Because Carpal Tunnel Syndrome isn't how you test for legitimate GH!!
Has Banner/Hulk offered to replace this kit?
I was trying to remember where I placed my "Hulkmart" receit so I could get my refund....JK
All joking aside, Im not out to get a replacement kit. In this market its buy at your own risk. Thats why its so important for people to run blood work and post there results with particular compounds and sources so that we can make our educated decisions about whether or not to use them. Banner has proven that he is a top source by showing test results of the gear he sells including the Rips. These Rips have tested well not only with Banner but a number of other members on this site. Just because he has one bad kit doesnt mean that its all bad and others have posted that its legit because they have managed to self induce CTS with these same Rips.....heck the china boy maybe folded the amino acid chain left when he should have folded right....if you have done any research on GH it really is a fragile compound and there are a number of things that could make a kit go bad even when the others have tested well.
Sounds reasonable ... thanks bro
Anonnot your fault at all, we need more people here posting blood.That way you know whats going on in your body as well as it keeps sources on there game.Keep doing what you do brother.Sent you a FR
Will do! FR accepted.
I can vouch that the Rips are most deff not fake in anyway shape or form. I've been runnin Hulk's Rips for months now at 10iu eod and my hand numbness is almost out of control.
Regarding your test that's fkn awesome that ur test levels are that high!!
Now the GH test was taken way too late. If u really wanna find out if they are real u need to take ur shot IM and have the test done exactly two hours after the shot. This way will be more accurate and guys 4iu GH isn't gonna send his igf levels skyrocketing. Now if he shot 10iu rips all at once then yeah he will have a big surge in igf
As I'm writin this on my phone my left hand is goin numb. When I 1st started takin Hulk's Rips my hands went numb on the 4th day where as previously I was taking 10iu Black Tops 10iu eod all at once after training and it took two weeks for me to get symptoms of numbness in hands. He had them tested even before he would sell them!!! Now do any of u know a seller that would go through that kind of trouble for people he doesn't know?? I sure as hell don't. That's why I'm with Hulk for life!! He actually gives a damn about us buyers. To let u guys know the results of the Rips after being tested came back as 94% purity. That's damn near perfect!!!!
All I can say is Hulks Rips are most deff legit and I love those lil fuckers. They are the main reason why I'm sitting at 246lbs with clearly defined 8 pack and if need be ill post a pic of me of what Hulk's gear has done for me!!
How can you explain a 162 on IGF test??? Lol yeah they are real bro. I will go buy some INSANELY overpriced rips (or should i say ripoffs) from hulk that test like shit - only because you can vouch they are real. Thanks for your word bro it means a lot to the community.
This sentence right here is a clear indicator that you are completely uneducated when it comes to IGF testing. I'm not even to try to explain to you how wrong you are, because you probably won't understand anyways. Sometimes people aren't capable of understanding complicated manner as such
Lol right. Are you sure the year round abuse of steroids including grams of test, tren, deca, anavar, insulin , and everything else isn't contributing to that at all?
AnonLol those are always funny!
AnonThe hgh testing you described is for growth serum test, not and igf test. His first box his igf tested nice and high. But this box, which he said the authenticity code had been checked before,did not score high. His first igf test showed 462, his second 192. There is no way that a drop like that could be from testing wrong(which he didn't test wrong for igf) or aas and other the compounds used. No one is saying anything bad about hulk. And hulk could have gotten a bad box or that was tampered with, without him knowing. He doesn't make them himself so no one is blaming him. But it is clear there is something wrong with that box.
Yeah it's possible and I know no one here is bashing Hulk. I'm baffled honestly cause the kits I have been getting are working really good. To the point I'm sick of having numb hands lol.
Yeah that test is for GH serum but reason I said to do that test that it could indeed see if the rips are legit is why I mentioned cause if they real then he has another issue goin on.
We also all have to take in the fact there were a few days that went by after taking his last GH shot so wouldn't his igf levels fall?
I think OP should shoot up 10iu IM then go get tested two hours later. That will put all this speculation to rest
AnonWith an igf it will still show elevation even after a few days of not taking hgh. He said the kit had already been checked before which tells me his kit was not legit. Rips are suppose to be the strongest generics. I have seen countless bloods that show high elevation. He got a bad kit which sucks.
Goes to show how ignorant you are again. You don't even know how the fuck you test for GH. Stick to abusing AAS and stop posting bullshit info.
Ok well tell me and everyone else how ur suppose to test for real GH since I'm so ignorant
Anoni explained it up there, you gotta check for igf levels sent you a FR
Accepted
Let him read the thread first, should help him fully understand the issue at hand
Anontrue
My pleasure.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/hgh-testing-the-real-deal
Ok I read that link. Now my question is this. Why is growth the only peptide out there that causes CTS? I have run every peptide out there and as soon as I jumped on 10iu Rips EOD by fourth day my hands were goin numb!
I'm not starting a war but a legitimate question & back in the day that was the sign if u had real deal GH
Also u said that Pharm Grade growth doesn't cause CTS. That is false cause I know a friend personally that gets real deal pharm grade and his hands went numb off 5iu a day
BigBmajMy hands go numb using ipamorelin and CJC. They are totally numb in the morning and anytime I'm using my fingers, like right now.
Anonyes pharam grade hgh will give you sides but most people start low and ramp up slow. Especially cause it cost more. Ramping up to high weather im running generics will give me sides. CTS is a common side oh hgh. And if you jump strait up to 10ius of any good name brand generic or pharma you will get some serious sides. The post he made isn't really for the good name brand generics like hyges,vips and rips. It is for all the other shit going around. Like no named colored tops, fake jins and ect.
I'll shoot you an FR buddy, enough cluttering this guy's lab results
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I don't care if you're 300lbs, or have a 12 pack. RIPS are not the reason, AAS is. And based on your post, you are very ignorant about Growth Hormone. You can stand by your source, there's no problem in that. Hulk puts out awesome gear and there's a reason he's #2. But don't post bullshit info.
Lmao I'm the dumb one??
Man U need to get ur facts right. It's not the AAS that makes me looks this good. Yeah they play a big part but its my diet that makes me have an 8 pack and YES rips do play a big part of it.
When u get to be my size there lil guy then come at me lol
What difference does it make how big he is? Why is that relevant on an AAS website? I think that Empee looks pretty fuckin good! A lot better than most pics you'll see. So you're a bodybuilder,...who just happens to be bigger than the guy you're arguing with so that's what you pull out of your ass in the middle of an hgh debate? It's like the dumb kid who gets clowned in the school yard and says "ohhh YEAAH, well you can't beat me!" C'mon my man! This ain't the school yard and there are no kids here. There is no blueprint to what an aas expert or even an aas user should look like. If you are wrong about something just man up and admit it. If you don't think you're wrong then agree to disagree and fall back. Attacking another person because of their physique? Ppl get banned for much less. Consider it a warning. What you're doing is the equivalent of me getting pissed at you and sayin ,"when your meat head ass loses some fuckin weight and can hang more than a minute with me in the ring come talk to me. Ohh and you can't work that chin out my man! I put bigger dudes than you on their fuckn ass!"
How's that sound? Makes me sound pretty fuckn dumb doesn't it? For the record , I'd give up 100lbs to show a bodybuilder how fucking irrelevant their size is in real life. Chill out my man.
Anonthis isn't the first time ive seen you talk shit about how other people look.. we don't bash peoples appearance on this forum bud.. until you're sporting an IFBB tag with a 6 figure contract, you're just irrelevant as someone who lifts recreationally. Can you name any minor league baseball players? Didn't think so.
BigBmajWhen your nips are as big as mine we can discuss AI's. :).
You can go on as much as you'd like, but yeah, you are the dumb one. Typical juicehead.
Hulk Test Cyp
Hulk Tren A
Hulk Deca
Hulk TNE
Hulk Rips
Slin
Isn't this your cycle? You attribute your physique to Riptropin. Give me a fucking break. Stand up for Hulk as much as you want pal, he's a great source. But stop misleading people. When I get to your size? I already weigh more than you do and I only run Test. What are you on again? Test Tren Deca Slin. Keep talking out of your ass.
Don't get butthurt. Just because you have size from abusing AAS, doesn't make you knowledgeable at all. Truth hurts sorry. Ignorance is bliss. Keep pimping your rips and fight Hulk's battles, as if he needs you to defend him. Guess you missed the fanboys thread a while ago.
Anyways peace juicehead
Yep that's my cycle. But what I'm tryin to get across to you is this.... U telling me I can take all that eat like shit and still come into a contest shredded? Don't think so homie. Diet plays the biggest role in how you look and how big u wanna get. If u know anything about this stuff is that it takes food to activate it. You can be the typical juice head in the gym that don't eat worth a fuck and come to me asking me why I continue to put on size and 1st response you'll get is EAT.
Damn Man U should know this. Look at at the pro's and how much food they shovel down their throat. Do u really think they got that big from eating small amounts of food with their gear?
Lmao and u weigh more than me?? I just looked at ur pics homie and u small as hell compared to me lol. Yeah u might weigh more than me but I'm packin more muscle than you.
When did I ever say you don't know how to eat? Or you know nothing about Diet? I was comparing the effects of AAS vs RIPs to your body. You said you checked my pics? DId you bother checking the title under pics? Or the comments I left? Everyone who asks me what I do, I STRESS DIET. WHenever I get asked what I do, I tell them it's all about the DIET.
So I'm not following you here? Why did you just a long ass post about diet when I didn't even say you didn't know anything about nutrition? The whole argument was about effects of AAS vs Rips to your diet. This had nothing to do with diet.
Again, no idea what to tell you. You're just sounding more stupid post after post.
You know about AAS, you know about diet. Your pics show it. My point is, give advice about those. Because you and I clearly know, you aren't knowledgeable at ALL about growth hormone. So stop giving advice about it, that is the whole point here. Stop taking things so personal.
Oh and one more thing, I'm not your "homie".
Another one of your cycles:
200mg Hulk Tren Ace ED
150mg Hulk Masteron ED
100mg Hulk Winny ED
My cycle, which never changes:
750mg Test E
You're a BB, you compete. I'm a casual weight lifter, I play BasketBall.
What are you still comparing for again? If I were you I'd be ashamed with all that juice and you still weigh less. That's like me hopping on here and telling I CAN BEAT YOU AT BASKETBALL, how does that even make sense? Do you understand this site has people with all kinds of goals? Bet you don't. Typical ignorant juice head. Keep pumping 1.4g Tren a week pal.
Your amazing logic: OMG I HAVE MORE SIZE THAN THIS DUDE SO I KNOW MORE ABOUT GH! LOL. Pathetic. Have a good day "homie"
valhallas bestas we like to say in world of warcraft.... simply pwned....
u might have some of the roman orator's cicero's blood in you
but i'd still smash on you in 1 on 1 bball
AnonYou play bball I will dunk on you lol
I will dunk YOU! LOL
AnonHahahhahaha
Haha I bet you're grinding your teeth reading about how these rips are legit because people have numb hands.
What I'm trying to get an answer for is the fact that my IGF-1 level had been 462 and now it has dropped to 162 and nothing has changed with my dosing of GH. Also what accounts for the GH injections being painful now that I'm on the second box and I'm diluting in the same manner as with the first.
You are taking two drugs that lower igf levels. Both nolvadex and aromasin. Drop the nolvadex and just run aromasin and I bet ur levels come up.
As far as the injects being painfull. I can't answer that one cause none of mine have hurt nor left welps or marks
AnonAromasin raises IGF up to 28% in some studies. It doesn't lower it
If u actually read anything I said I told him to stop the nolvadex. Thanx have a good day
Do u have a legitimate link to back u up on that?
AnonFirst I wasn't trying to get in a pissing match. I've done a lot of reading learning about Aromasin. I saw ur comment and replied. No need to turn this into some cock measuring contest. But here's a link but does not give exact % and also states the spike was estro connected.
http://www.spandidos-publications.com/ijo/22/5/1081
In the second link the numbers are mixed but do indicate a rise in IGF.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22444722/
Also bro I don't want u to think I'm biased in this argument. There's a study that shows it lowers IGF.
http://m.jcem.endojournals.org/content/88/12/5951.full
Go figure huh??!?!?!? Lmao!! Guess we both pissing in the wind
Lol man in no way was I turning it into a pissing match. I really wanted to know myself brotha. So we cool?
AnonAbsolutely homeboy:) Actually I'm glad I got a chance to dig these studies up. I remember when I wrote the Sticky Aromasin and PCT under my old handle. I found so many thread on different AAS forums siting the IGF increase. Turns out the actual med studies debunks that theory. Guess I'm going to have to get a MOD to edit that sticky now. Looks like J223 was right about Aro and IGF. The increase or decrease seems to be a wash
AnonOh I read it. And I pointed out where u were misinformed.
Now this makes sense. I was not aware that Aromasin decreased IGF-1 levels as well. That along with not having an GH injection in 2 days before the test is a pretty good explanation. I'm still baffled about the painful injections...may try to use sterile water or something to reconstitute instead of the bacteriostatic water.
And just to clear the air here...my purpose here was not to belittle the quality of Banners product! I know all about his devotion to his buyers and the effort he makes to ensure that he is supplying nothing but the best! That's why I have bought from Banner since my first day on Eroids! Banner sets the bar! I actually started these Rips while cruzing and could feel a difference in my physique in as little as two weeks, so I know these Rips are legit! I'm only trying to get a better perspective and interpretation of how all these compounds react together so that I can someday be giant like you.
I will stop the Nolvadex and just run the Aromasin and follow up with some labs