posted Wed, 09/25/2013 - 10:22
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test prop first cycle opinions
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Thinking of doing 10.5 weeks of test prop injecting twice a week 250mg monday and Thursday
21ml vile each ml is 250.
weeks 10.5 250mg twice monday and Thursday
weeks 1-10.5 will use armidex or aromasin for AI monday & thursday.
two weeks after last test prop pin Will use nolvadex and clomid for 4 weeks everyday.
I would like opinions on this cycle and dosage suggestions for my pct and AI.
Also if anyone can pm me where to get caber, evista, aromasin.
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Playa, 250 mg/ml prop at 1ml per day on virgin muscle? Owwwwwch! That's gonna kill yo ass!
I got no problem with a brotha running prop his first cycle If he has done his homework. Your plan to pin prop twice a week tells me that you haven't quite done enough homework.
It sounds like you only have one bottle of prop on hand. Shit dog, what If you drop it and it breaks? Take some time little bro. Stock pile double of what you need. You really should get some test e or c for the first run. Pin it twice a week at 500 to 600 mg/ week.
Use the prop that you already have as a kicker. If the ouchies are unbearable with that prop you can continue on with the long esters.
Now, with the aromasin, if you are running prop hit it 3 days in, 1/4 tab a day (6.25 mg) if you run e or c you would prolly be aaight to wait two weeks in on the aro. (That's just how I like to run it)
Run bloods to be sure an adjust as needed.
For your pct. timing will depend on what ester you use, I personally like a 5 week pct.
150, 100, 100, 50, 50
60, 40, 40, 20, 20
Evista? Me personally, I wouldn't fuck with it. It does exhibit estrogenic effects on your bones. What does that mean? Hell if I know. I just don't like the sound of it.
BOOM!!!
If you don't want to do a lot of pinning then Test E is going to be your route. Run it for longer than 10 weeks though. You can push that to 12 weeks. So you'll look like
Weeks 1-12 500mg Test E split mon/thurs
As for your AI. You you choose to go with Aromasin your dosage will be 12.5mg ED or adjust it to what you feel needed. Meaning if you get dry joints which is a sign of low estro then you can drop to 6.25 ED. I wouldn't start your AI until week 3 or week 4. If you start it before then you run the risk of shouting your e2 down in the beginning and that is no bueno.
Pct you've pretty much got that correct
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Start it 2 weeks after your last injection. You also have the option of running Aro into pct but that's a little much overkill IMO since this is just a test only run.
If you have the chance I would highly suggest getting blood work done precycle, midcycle, and after your done with your pct. This way we can see where your body is before, then during to make adjustments and post to see if your body has come closer to being back at homeostasis.
looks like you are right eod is better. I don't want to pin that much maybe I might start with test prop and switch to test e 4 weeks into it? Or just do test e from the get go?
The only problem is waiting 4 weeks for the test e to kick in will be a pita
hit the searchbar for kickstart bro, Don't even need stats to know you have some learning to do before you jump into this
says alot about where you are at knowledge -wise
RESEARCH bro, you will not regeret it, you WILL regret jumping into the use of dangerous compounds without the know how
oh yeah I forgot about the 2 week wait is not needed for short ester test prop.
Right?
I also didn't take into account that short ester's are more potent good catch on both counts.
I am wondering what you guys recommend for the pct and ai dosage.
I know I have seen clomid and nolvadex at like 40/40/20/20 nolva and clomid 100/50/50/50
AI's I have seen arimidex at .5 every 3 days or aromosin 12.mg eod.
I think I might go with aromasin and might switch the nolva for evista. Have to research the dosage on evista though.
mh001Dont wait so long after your last Pin to start your pct? Also, what is your pct, meaning dosages? How much aromasin or armidex are you going to use? You need to pin EOD at least for Prop, 500mg of prop is like 650mg of enanthat (i believe, correct me if im wrong) Isnt that a bit much for your first cycle? Read My post about my first cycle coming up if you wanna know how to properly run a prop cycle...
yes I meant prop with a half life of 3 days doesn't make it ideal at two injections a week at 250mg's?
the caber is for a buddy and evista and aromasin for me.
You sure you meant to write Prop and not Ethanate? Prop is an every day or every other day compound, unless it is phenylprop. You don't use Caber with non 19-nor compounds (Tren and Nandrolone).
You use an AI daily some choose every other day, mostly individuals that have their AIs in the form of capsules.
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lifting since I was 14
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What are your stats?
No one here will be willing to give you advise unless you write down a few more detail about yourself aka states.