posted Mon, 09/16/2013 - 05:34
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+ 6 blood test? test a lil low?
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This was taken on week 5 of hulks test e 600mg per week and ashop 50mg tbol ed usually my test level even at 500 per week is over double this # and as you can see my liver is high!! Any recommendations on that? And already pmd Banner about test. .
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UFOI wouldnt be concerned with those test numbers at all bro. I know everyone loves to see those sky high numbers but there is only so much testosterone the body can actually use. Off of Watson cyp 600mg a week I was testing right around 2000 so Id say your numbers are spot on.
Edit: No idea why I thought this post was new, guess cause I saw you posting it on banners SI...
Thats alright man was just looking for more feedback just suprised because I run 500mg week other times and have almost double the test #
+1 for getting the test done bro!
AnonAt 600mg a week Id expect anywhere from 3500-6000
But then again at week 5 you are still ramping up a bit. You might have tested a tad early. Id stay on course if you are feeling good otherwise, then retest after week 8
Also your age isnt filled out in your profile, are you cycling or blast/cruise ? Dont forget if you are starting a cycle fresh its going to take longer to ramp up.
Cycling and im 30 I just know even at thid point im usually a lot higher on test range.. I appreciate it!
It's def significantly more than normal range but still a bit lower than expected IMO. For enanthate or cyp cycles, I like to wait until week 7 or so before running bloodwork. Reason being that as the administered dosages cycle thru their half lives and become freed from the paired esters, you will continue to get a sort of compounding effect with plasma levels until they reach their peak.
Again, tho, my opinion is that numbers should be higher with a 600/wk dose for 5 weeks. Let me ask you: does the oil have any sort of odor to it like tne does?
I will get another test soon to see where im at I just upped dose a lil because it seems underdosed to me
Thats what I had thought pmd him over a week ago and no answer about it.. I haven't noticed any smell to it ill check later to see if there is any odor
I asked that curious if maybe it was mislabeled. I'd expect numbers like these on super p twice a week. But super p has a strong gauicol odor to it (same shit you smell with tne).
Very true good thinking! Abaddon recommended I talk to you about this stuff! But ya im super suprised my level is this #
At four weeks I was half that on Mutas oils which we all know test well. I wouldn't sweat it we are both probably still rising.
What dosage were u running?
Don't see a problem with your liver values. They will elevate with weight lifting and no juice. Make sure your estro doesn't keep running up on you. More estro more SHBG more SHBG less free test.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17764474
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2661990/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10336050
I mean one of my #s are double from the tbol im assuming but thats good to hear I appreciate it!
I understand. Your AST is elevated to 80 which is double reference range of 40. AST is an enzyme that is not only found in the liver but it is in your heart,kidneys,pancreas,blood cells,and muscle tissue. If you want to make sure it's not your liver then get at GGT (Gamma Glutamyl Transpeptidase) It's about 45 bucks.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3104191/?report=classic
Good info man but I dont want it to be any of those things either tho lol
I see no problems with those numbers bro.
Really? Ok just lower than what iv seen before what about the liver #s what u think about that?
i was doing around 200mg EW of watson test for TRT and i was getting around 1200ng so ur stuff is not compeletly underdosed but just alittle underdosed. and it could have been an honest mistake. u should be in the 3000ng. it differs for everyone but i know the injecting 600mg should get u higher then 2100.
some older test labs
http://www.eroids.com/pics/blood-work-on-kalpa-test-e-gbnstore.com
http://www.eroids.com/pics/roxis-test-e-0
http://www.eroids.com/pics/big-d-lab-results-0
Ya I agree iv ran 500 every week and was in the 5000s so thats why im a lil confused
for me 500mg of test will but me around 3000. and 750 is more around 4000 to mid 4000
Ya I hear ya.. u think I should just switch to other test I have on hand?
u cant really expect something thats not pharma to come out the same. ppl will measure stuff differently, sometimes it will come out a little underdosed, sometimes a little overdosed. as long as the error percentage is low then its all good. but 500mg to get to 5000 is overdosed IMO. most ppl will be around 2500-3000..should u switch.. depends on how much food u eat..i feel like being around 4000ng was the golden number for most of my clients who are beginers or on there 5th cycle or w/e. they grew off of it very well. it depend on ur goals. 2100 is not bad is about as 3x as high test. at best u can raise the dose. atleast now u know what to expect off 600mg of a certain vial rather then switching and now u dont know ur number because u dont know if that vial is underdosed or overdosed
I guess also the question is the other two hulk test e if there dosed the same also so how much more you think I should go if I keep running this one?
bro ur stuff is a little underdosed, there is nothing to worry about. what u ran in the past is overdosed.. u cant expect it to be on the same level as pharma test. this is fine IMO
mr127superdeewhenever i blast out a cycle my test dose is usually 500-600mgs a week and my levels are always right around 2400-2500 so your fine you just about where i usually am at this dose and the difference of 50 points is probably expected everyone cant respond the same exact way..that test is not underdosed dont worry youll be fine maybe once you drop your estro a lil bit you will feel the difference
Yes for some im sure this is normal but iv been double this at 500perwk thats all I was saying
mr127superdeeim impressed if thats the case was it a differnet source? maybe a new source if so i have heard of new sources overdosing their gear to get a good customer base at first friend request me cause id like to know more
RustyhookerDude....those numbers are high. You gotta research more on the body and how it works. I've seen dudes with numbers doubled and they didn't grow because what is the "free test" values? Post after post and forums tell folks clearly about sbgh.
Those numbers you got are fine. Except estro is a whoppin 10point high. Still isnt a worry neither!
Well just stopped tbol cuz liver so Damn bad it looks so im guessing during that my free test was high but wouldn't the more total test the more free I would have?
RustyhookerTotal test and free test is different. You can have 5000 total and 0 free test and won't grow. Bound test (5000 ex) is....bound and unuseable. SBGh binds test up.
How bad u think my liver values are? Was first time running tbol and just stopped early cuz of #s
True. .
RustyhookerResearch provi. ;) Theres a stickie on it in one of the forum sections.
I would love to try it jus dont want to go any balder than I am lol but what would u say about my liver #s
RustyhookerWere you taking liver protection and fluids? Tbol doses? They will elevate with 17aa roids but don't need issues. Im not sure on upper limits for liver but your doubled.
Yah was taking aegis liver shield. . Wonder if the shit did anything and I was taking liv 52 but not much and yes at least Gallon a dayof water
RustyhookerResearch provi. ;) Theres a stickie on it in one of the forum sections.
Your righy many will see 2400 blood levels on 250 mg or trt dose
RustyhookerFind ONE test that shows that......
Looks like hunting for freebies here....
Im not hunting for any freebies here brotha.
RustyhookerNot you....i want to see these supposed labs. Dude made the comment....i wanna see proof. Thats why its directed at him and not in my replies to you
Was just saying stuff has been popping up seems that hulk is really struggling just goes to show.even though they claim world class best gear consistentlythings happen sources makes.mistakes.and cut corners good.job on doing bloods and posting am interested to see what banner says and how he deals with it not to mention rest of batch