posted Fri, 09/13/2013 - 10:47
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+ 1 looking for advice on my tbol and test c stack
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anyone try if so please let me know your thoughts? ive never tried them before
i want to run 500mg of test c and 40mg of tbol everyday for 8 to 12 weeks. shooting for 250grams of protein and eat 5 times a day. im a newbie any advice would be appreciated.
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AnonLove tbol. Its a great oral if your looking for some lean gains and great pumps. It also compliments test very well. I would start at 40mg just to make sure you respond well to it then gradually bump it up. 80mg is a real nice place to finish at for me. Dont just jump up to it though. +1
SuperDaveyThank you very much
I wasn't planning on bumping up over 50 this cycle. I will try for 80 next one. I Wanna make sure I can handle it first. I was told to feel for the pumps and if I'm taking too much it could actually even hurt not to mention liver problems
Thanks for all the help guys. You guys rock! I'm stoked!!
AnonThats a safe place to be. 80mg is where I like to be. I wasn't telling you to run it that high. Im glad your being safe. Tbol Is a great oral. Very under rated in my opinion.
SuperDaveyI Understand
Gonna work myself up to 80 one day
I saw some friend using 1000 test a 80tbol. SO jacked omg
AnonThat's a lot of test
if First cycle?.... NO ORALS
What? Why the hell not? Tbol is awesome at higher doses
SuperDaveyMy first time with epharma
I have done a couple cycles now. Got big when I was on it but didnt keep alot of it
I was told diet is key key key key
The amount you keep really I think is more associated with how quickly you can recover your test levels. I was told many things are the key, but none of them have worked which leads me to believe it is ultimately HPTA axis that is the main determinant in how much of your gains you are able to maintain, or I should say how slowly your gains diminish, because above your natural limit you will always return to the muscle weight and density that your body is genetically predisposed to support.
Any way tbol is really mild it can be run 6 weeks easy some stretch it to 8, but beyond that you could see a change in liver values, but it's t-bol so I don't think you'll have any trouble with whatever you decide.
SuperDaveyWow thank you very much
That's really helpful
I've only done arimidex when i come off
I was told hcg nolva and clomid is better for getting natural test back sooner. Am I not doing pct well enough?
And I will run Tbol for 6 to 8 weeks depending on how I feel. I will really focus on eating much better this time as well
HCG nolva and clomid are an outstanding PCT. The standard for this site (i.e. the best I've run across) is 4 week Clomid and nolva combo. Wait two weeks after your last shot of testosterone to start PCT
1st wk/ 2nd wk/ 3rd wk/ 4th wk
Clomid 100mg ED/ 100mg ED/ 50mg ED/ 50mg ED <<< This is 100 percent necessary for PCT
Nolva 40mg ED/ 40mg ED/ 20mg ED/ 20mg ED <<< There are some who say this is not necessary but if you can afford 50 bucks to get this then you're body and balls will thank you in spades.
You add HCG to a PCT if you are using deca or tren, or if you are running a particularly long cycle. This and Clomid is what a doctors would prescribe for infertility they are really incredible.
Diet is always a plus, and determines the quality of your gains, but a good PCT will always be the major factor of retention and retaining your gains for longer. You can get clomid and nolva for cheap, and they're rarely ever faked.
SuperDaveywow! thats awesome @Broctavius
damn it i need to log on more often
i didnt even see this PCT guidline. thank you!
how would you break down the hcg into your PCT? ive got the clomid nolva down from you thank you. will use that. but maybe use 5000iu vial over 3 4 weeks as well? maybe 500iu x 3 a week?