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Starting to notice some testicular atrophy on 2nd week of new cycle. Any suggestions.

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Guys, Here is my info:

I am 54yrs old, went on my first cycle in 30 yrs of all natural training. Cycle was 14 weeks of 500ml a week of sustanon and 20-40mg dbol 1st 10 weeks. Everything was ok, except I had very little energy to train correctly but still I got into the gym as much as I could. I started off at 170lbs at 5-9 and cycle ended at 185. 15 lbs gain but most of it coming in the last 2 weeks.I was not happy to stop cycle but have chronic fatigue from acute insomnia and lower back pain(3 ruptured disks I take tramadol for) so that made me realize the doctors meds were negating most of mjy gains. Still......15 pounds which was my biggest weight gain for that period of time in many years, blood work came back fime on everything from cholesterol, liver function,sugar etc. My doctor only checked my hormone levels "before" the cycle but not after.

So i give it an 8 week rest using no PCT/AI except proviron at 25mg ED which I was told was too low in the first place. Lesson learned.

So I placed an order with one of the vendors here and since my latest blood work 2 weeks ago came back even more improved, better cholesterol, blood pressure and liver, i figured its time for 2nd cycle but this time i would start with TNE and test prop along with just 150ml of enanthate for a total of 5-600 ml of total testosterone. My sex drive which didnt go up one inch on 14 wks of sust, went thru the roof in 5 days. The plan is to slowly cut down the TNE and test prop and just do test enanthate 500ml a week thruout the cycle but extend the cycle to maybe 16 or 18 weeks seeing it took so long to get the old boy moving last time. But lo and behold Im noticing last couple of days my balls feel smaller and Im not even completed a full 2 weeks on this cycle. I have this time ordered all the PCT's, so, what should I take,and how should I go about it.

****And please, dont tel m e I should have gotten tested after i finished the last cycle for hormone levels. I wish i could have dome that, but my medical issues with ruptured discs which have created a dependence on painkillers,inability to seep thru the nite without sleeping pills and also a slightly low thyroid problem is making them take blood from me quite often i must attend to these issues first. Problem is I have been working on these for yrs and no...I would be 85 if i held up my next cycle till those other issues have been addresses.

Im wondering if my test. atrophy is from the new cycle of short acting tests. or is a rebound from the first cycle of 8 weeks ago. Whats interesting is this cycle has me horny like a "normal guy of 33", like my old self, where the other cycle didnt do anything for me and thats 1/2 the reason I did it. I also just started taking b12 shots and its not coincidence my insomnia has gotten much worse since injecting as per the instructions just 1000mcg 2x a week. Whats that about???????

So, do I do some armidex, boys? Or just go right into clomid/nolva or hit it with the old aromasin? Id like to finish this cycle if possible!

silat50's picture

HCG? Can you elaborate? -) I'm off to the gym. Chat with you guys tomorrow. Thanx.

crayon's picture

My testies right now are like half the size they were before cycle haha i noticed it around week 2 aswell. Yes the short acting esters will mean atrophy kicks in alot faster than sticking to just long esters, which means you also notice these changes alot faster too.

Also what was your results from the hormone panel before you did your first cycle? Test levels specifically.

silat50's picture

cray I have no idea. My doctor had the test done along with a whole blood workup and said everything was perfect so I never actually see the numbers

crayon's picture

Ye the doctor could say its perfect but from my experience that could mean anything, i would get her to show you and even print those results off so you can look at it in detail.

silat50's picture

The only nagging issue is my thyroid is low, and has been for 12 yrs and any medication they give me to raise it causes me to go into a frenzy as if I drank 12 cups of coffee so now I have an endocrinologist poking away at me taking blood to find out whay as this is very very rare....(9 doctors have been stumped completely)..... but refuses to look at other hormones. In fact I asked for a saliva test for my adrenals and she refused. She is a control freak and no I cant change doctors as she is the only endo on my plan within a reasonable distance. So both my primary doc and endo are only worried about my thyroid which imho CANNOT be the reason my energy has been so low for over 20 years. I actually have had to quit martial arts classes several times as I just cant keep up cardio wise with the younger guys, despite 25 yrs of training!So I have shrinking balls and permanant chronic fatigue. Otherwise everything is perfect .LOL

Also, one of my balls glows green in the dark and flashes like a vegas neon lightbulb when I get into bed.Does everyone have that side-effect? lol Can you guess who i bought my gear from? ha! No dont guess, The mods wont like me anymore.Just shows that Im getting potent shit if I can double my sex drive in 5-7 days, at age 54 no less. And I learned another thing, Sustanon is not the #1 choice of test for a reason.I was using The best real lab stuff too.From 3 different suppliers to be dead sure before coming to eroids. Done with Sustanon. TNE-test prop-test enan is the move. If this doesnt satisfy my needs I will try juts one more cycle adding in deca and then Im done...permanantly!.... until my next life time when I might come back as Joe Weider and take ALL the bodybuilding and supplement money off the table. Best body building businessman who ever lived. Didnt even know he died on 3/23/13. RIP Joe.