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-1 Bunk test cycle

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

22
5'6"
180 lbs
17-19% bf
Bench 265
Squat 335
Dead lift 335x5

Cycle:
Test prop wk 1-8
Aromasin wk 2-8
Pct
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 75/75/35/35

I'm started this cycle last Monday with a 400mg frontload then going to 100mg eod. I plan on running it first to test for bunk gear because I not positive about source. With the frontload with 2ml one in each glute. The soreness kicked in about for hours later but didn't notice anything more than what I would consider soreness from shaky hands/ bad injection technique. I did half a cc this morning in left delt this morning and its already getting sore but I have shoulders today so that should help.

On another note please ignore the cycle table until further notice because it will not be correct till I get to use a computer instead of my phone.

WeekTestosterone propAromasinClomidNolvadex
1300mg
2400mg6.25eod
3300mg6.25eod
4400mg6.25eod
5300mg6.25eod
6400mg6.25eod
7300mg6.25eod
8400mg6.24eod
970mg Ed40mg Ed
107040
113520
123520
mjh36's picture

I thought you don't really need an AI while running only test under a gram per week. Are you just getting it incase you have the sides?

Pugsybugs's picture

Yes, I rather have to react to too low of estrogen by backing off my ai them trying to recover from too high of estrogen.

finafan's picture

lol. You thought wrong. If you are serious you need to do some research. If you are on a cycle go do some blood work. my estrogen was crazy high after 3 days of 50mg pr day of prop.

mjh36's picture

I am on cycle but its just Test E 500mg/wk, started it 2 weeks ago, so it hasn't really kicked in yet, but yea I guess I'll just keep researching. Can you start the AI at any point in a cycle or is it just as symptoms occur then you use it? I do have Arimidex on hand dosed at 12.5mg.

finafan's picture

You want to keep your estrogen in normal range. So what ever that takes is what you need to do.If I was you I would start arimidex or aromasin(12.5 is a aromasin dose not arimidex) now. Then around week 5 I would get blood work. Blood work is cheap( $50). So there is no reason to not do it. Plenty of threads on AI on here. Need more help pm me. again 12.5 is not a arimidex dose so make sure you know what you have.

mjh36's picture

oops yea sorry about that I thought the bag said "ARI" but I just checked again and it says "ARO" on it so yes its deff aromasin. Thanks, I appreciate the help!!

Pugsybugs's picture

This is something that has made me laugh more than anything else. Everyone here preaches about test e and test c first cycle for the reason of PIN numbers and getting used to how your body reacts and virgin muscle and whatnot, but the whole design of test prop sings first cycle. For one, if you have a bad reaction to the test, it's out of your system in half the time of test e and c. So for the point of seeing how you react to it test p wins. For number of pins and Virgin muscle, nothing pops the cherry or muscles faster than injecting more often and pip is completely bare able for me. I also have no problem injecting eod, which may be do to pinning 3x and 5x a day during a peptide cycle I ran for injury recovery. Age is nothing I can argue with. I'm sure people my age have had some sort of permanent shutdown, but there are outliers for every statistic and I deemed it worth the risk.

j223's picture

For one, if you have a bad reaction to the test, it's out of your system in half the time of test e and c.

Why would you have a bad reaction? Nothing could possibly happen that would cause you to need to drop it. All sides on test can be prevented or controlled.

Pugsybugs's picture

Really cause I just read a thread that you posted in and commented on where a guy reacts badly to test but is fine on tren. What were you saying about those sides?

Pugsybugs's picture

Lol I'm an idiot because I choose to use a different ester of test than your bros only do test e first philosophy? How about your a pussy cause you chose to only pin twice a week.

finafan's picture

I think he was calling you a idiot for all the dumb ass statements you make. Not on your choice of ester.I could be wrong though.

finafan's picture

Sides show up more rapid on test p. 3 days a noobs estrogen could be 900. PIP could really suck with prop. Have to have more injection sites with prop.

finafan's picture

title should not be bunk test cycle. It should be dumb test cycle or How not to run a cycle. You can not tell if your Test is bunk because you ran everything wrong. Go get a blood test or get a mass spec done of gear. That is the only way you will know.

Rasputin_Omega's picture

Well... At least you have your ancillaries. Age 22 with nearly 20% bf and you want your first cycle to be prop?

I get it though, you didnt come here for cycle advice because clearly you have it under control. It looks like the only reason you posted is because you think you gear is bunk... And if that's the case... WHY ARE YOU INJECTING IT INTO YOUR BODY. Test prop is literally the cheapest shit you can buy..? What if the vial is contaminated? Idk this all sems very poorly thought out and executed. You should know after 5-10 days if its working. Get bloodwork if you want to be sure. . . Or you could do something crazy like get gear from a legit source, wait a few years and lower your BF.

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Pugsybugs's picture

If you have a pharmaceutical source then by all means please pm me, but otherwise any underground lab has the ability to be bunk, underdosed, or not what you wanted.

Rasputin_Omega's picture

True. The beauty of eroids though is that sources have a rep and stand by their gear so that people like you don't have to shoot questionable gear. However, some people choose to do it anyway, and that's their prerogative.

I wish you the best of luck brah and I genuinely hope whatever you're trying to accomplish works out.

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B52-BODY's picture

your missing a ton of things..( like everyone mentioned.). the test - your not sure about..etc.etc..

is there a point to this..??.( not trying to be a dick..but i don't get it.)..

Pugsybugs's picture

The only thing I'm not sure about is if the test is bunk or not. Ai, pct, and all equipment ice had in my possession for over four months waiting for an injury to heal. The cycle time is like that because I'm gonna run it for four weeks an if bunk stop. Otherwise I will be stopping at 8 else or when I hit the maximum weight I have decided for myself.

Pugsybugs's picture

Hot damn y'all can't read. IGNORE the table and read a bit

strongman480's picture

I did that's why i asked about the front load. how bout you read a bit.

Pugsybugs's picture

If you read it you would not be confused because test e has nothing to do with my cycle. I chose to do a frontload because a friend that I have watched cycle and has ram multiple prop cycles say it causes faster kick.

levelup's picture

Prop = short half life. By "frontloading" it you are unable to utilize it and the excess is going to end up converting...at your bf you are gonna have a high conversion too. Suggestion is to go over to the diet section and get yours ironed out. I don't care what you are going to run but your inexperience itn nutrition says it won't be a successful cycle. This is a total package deal...if you don't have all things together it isn't going to do shit

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strongman480's picture

the reason i'm asking about the front load is you don't front load test p. you just wasted test p for nothing. test p does't build up like test e or c so a front load is pointless. like i said YOU read a bit... like how to run a cycle correctly.

Pugsybugs's picture

Have you tried to do this yourself? Or can you link me a study tht shows it does nothing? Because I haven't found anything to suggest it wouldn't.

strongman480's picture

the half life is too short to front load. for example you do 100 mg eod so that's 400 mgs @ the end of the week all that you have left is 200 mg. that's it. so what good is the front load? go to roid calc.com and put your cycle in just as you are doing it and you will see that your front load was pointless.

strongman480's picture

I'm not understanding which compound you front loaded. was it test p or the test e? you don't front load test p.

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