posted Sat, 06/22/2013 - 10:34
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Best way to add Var to my first test cycle?
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Hi Guys - I will be starting my first test c cycle next week. can wait. - im 5'11 195 - boxer. 37 yo.
I plan on taking 500 test a week X 12 weeks. I have chlomind and nolva for my PCT- on hand.
Can you let me know if I will benefit from adding anavar to the cycle, and how much and when?
thank you very much.
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AnonYou put it in ur mouth at least 50mg or higher
I used var (50mg ED) with some other gear. I box as well and I found the var created crazy shoulder pumps - so much so that it was really hard to box for extended periods of time. You might want to play with dosage to harden up but not inhibit your training. For my next cycle, I'm looking at compounds to help lean and increase endurance. Let us know how it works out for you.
AnonOk bud,,,,,save that var for future use right nkow aint the best time for var
Run that test at 500 week and eat good train hard and your gonna do well
Oh i forgot
What is bf%
Here is it-- I just dont know when/how to add VAR. thanks
test c- 500x 12 weeks
pct
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.25 6.25
Clomid 100 100 50 50
Nolva 20 20 10 10
RustyhookerNormally anything but test isn't advised for first cycle to keep life easy.
Like crayon said...keep some aro in hand incase its needed to control estro. First cycle you don't know how your body reacts.
Typically var is 8-14 @ 50-75ed split half am...half pm. Works best when lean since it's a great hardener/finisher.
Awesome, thank you. I will get some aro- plus my friend is a Dr. He is monitoring me closely.
Why do some people take VAR from the start instead of the end?
RustyhookerThere's a term "kicker" for that idea. Kicker is an oil/injectable used to kick off the cycle. Since test e or any long Ester doesn't really get going til 4-5 Weeks in folks will use fast acting roids to start growing sooner. At leadt til the long Esters are going. Prop, dbol, var,, tbol, anadrol etc...are fast acting. In my opinion, starting with var isn't yhe best idea. Its better as a finisher when trying to harden and retain muscle while dropping fat. It for me liwets appetite so clean eating is eadier since your not constantly hungry. Added bonus to var is its abilitu to boost strength. So usuning at end bumps that better since test e is really banging.
Kickers should be used in later cycles due to their fast actions. A new person wont know as well what to expect or which roid is causing sides. Matching the kicker to the main cycle gives better results. Example, we get guys wanting hard clean gains but kicking with dbol. Dbol adds water retention-thus losing that hard appearance. But for good old bulking dbol is a fav or many.
Typically i use prop as a kicker. Its fast acting form of test. But you have to be ready to know ai procedures that match you bodies needs. With a future cycle you can kick it with prop, let long Esters work and add a finisher as needed without double dipping the 17aa roids.
17aa roids like var//Winny etc stress your liver so using them at beginning and end can be hard on body and not recommended.
Your ideas posted above are simple and to the point. Will be a nice cycle for ya.
thanks so much- this was awesome. I think I will do as you have suggested. I took my first pin last night, and i am fine with being patient with results. Perhaps i will start to add Var week 6 of 12??
Also make sure you have plenty of aromasin incase you have to use it from e.g week two
RustyhookerYou need ai incase estrogen gets wild and blood test at week 6 to adjust that ai. Please layout your full cycle plan
1-12 test-100Mg/wk
14-18 pct...dosages?