pudz123321's picture
pudz123321
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is this a good first cycle?

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Test E - 500 mg week - 12 weeks long
Adex .5 Eod - 12 weeks long

hcg 250iu twice a week

wait 3 weeks after last test e injection then pct -

Week 1 PCT /Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT /Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT /Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT /Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily

dfwtp's picture

i think u are putting way to much emphasis on pct then your actual cycle..you are only using one compound,. not really much of a stack. so many people I know dont even bother with pct, or have just reached the point of not coming off. I realize you may not be there at this point, but your pct stack is so much more involved. test @ 500 week shouldnt require all that recovery ancillaries. it is just not that much aas. It seems like it is well thought out and you did your research, but that is a bodybuilding.com cycle and really not going to go where you want it to..first cycle is always the best b/c it is new to you. take advantage of this fact and put more into the cycle instead of worrying about recovering from it. (assuming this wont be your last)

pudz123321's picture

how much can I expect to gain from this cycle?

dfwtp's picture

not as much as you are hoping. first one is good always, but you might be a little too conservative at this point to really get the maximum benfit

ShreddedCheddar's picture

That's why he has a -1.:-)

ShreddedCheddar's picture

Depends oh how well you have your diet and training put together. AAS is a tool. How well can you use that tool.

ShreddedCheddar's picture

If this is your first cycle you won't need the hcg. IMO it's best used for people that are prone to testicular atrophy or are using 3 or more compounds for aperitif longer than 16 weeks. Nolva should be 40/40/20//20 since you're not running Aro in your pct. also your oct should start 2 weeks after. Not 3. Start your Adex on week 3 so you don't shut down your e2 levels early before your test starts getting in your system good

ShreddedCheddar's picture

HCG isn't meant for pct. You can use to help kick start pct though. I'm sorry if you don't like Clomid. You probably don't like it cause of the way it gives you the "pct blues". But we're talking about him.

http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/hcg-what-is-it...

ShreddedCheddar's picture

Sorry bro. High test levels. I think I sounded like a smart ass. Being this is his first cycle I'd rather him stick with basic PCT. I don't see need for HCG if this is his first run. Let him run this and see how his body reacts to the test and everything else. Everyone is different.

How does Clomid make you feel?

yeegits's picture

looks good to me, some will say otherwise but i say dont even both with the HCG for a 12 week test e only