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Not going to lie, I was very disappointed when I saw these numbers.
I ran a fairly standard PCT. 100/100/50/50 of clomid and 20/20/20/20 of nolva. I got these bloods during my PCT to confirm my pct chems were legit.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/purchase-peptides-pct-labs
My FSH and LH were elevated as they should have been while on clomid/nolva, estrogen held in place with aromasin. It's been just about 6 weeks post pct when I got these bloods.
Test started at 217 during PCT and has only risen to 275. What's crazy is, I feel fine, I've making gains post PCT.
I guess from here it's either wait for test to rise naturally or see my doc about these numbers. I'm not interested in TRT at my age but I'm not sure what else I can do besides run another PCT. any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
It appears my LH is on point and FSH is on the low side.
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DOUBLE G 67HOW OLD ARE YOU BRO? IF YOU ARE OVER 36 THAT CLOMID THERAPY PROBABLY DID NOT WORK WELL FOR YOU
I'm 25 bud.
DOUBLE G 67OH..NEVER MIND!!! LOL LOL...IM 46 AND LAST TIME I DID PCT MY CUZ(TOP PRO)ADVISED ME TO FRONTLOAD CLOMID AND IT WORKED FANTASTIC
I ran 100 mg a day for the first two weeks. How high did you run it?
waltrg you talking about frontloading it for the first week? or the first dosage?
i ask cause i've heard it recommended both ways
UFOYea bro listen to MegaT on this one about the HCG. I started running gear at age 22, ran deca, tren dbols and lots of test for almost an entire yr before I learned what cycling really was. Before that I had smoked pot daily and still do, used to take lots of drugs from lsd to opiates. My natty test levels 3 days after my last pct have me at 750....the key? HCG dude. No one realizes how important that shit really is but it is the one compound I have used in every single PCT and it seems to do the trick. Get some GOOD hcg and do that cycle megaT just told u bout.
It's going to come back slowly but surely but may take wks or months. You need a little jump start. Like B52-Body mentioned I would run some HCG to get the old nuts plumped up so they can do their job. They may have shrunk a little on that 14 wk cycle and now are having a hard time getting going again.
I've got some on the way. During my PCT my FSH and LH were super elevated but my test was super low, 217. I'm down for anything at this point.
Which means your nuts aren't in gear. The LH and FSH are sending the signal to produce and it's not happening. Well the HCG wil get your testosterone levels up. If you have primary hypogonadism that cannot be corrected the hcg will not work. Meanng if your levels were fine before cycle( which I don't know) then this will work. 500iu eod for about 2 wks should do the trick but you will have to do a pct again to keep it going.(which you start at the same time) Should get your test levels in the 700-800 range then drop. PCt will keep it going as it drops some more and levels off when you discontinue. Or you can really shock it and do 1500iu eod for 2 wks and do normal PCT with it.. Just keep an eye on your estro levels. The whole idea is to jump start normal production which didn't happen during your last PCT. You'll feel good and won't lose what you gained from your cycle.
Cool. Thanks bud!!
As I'm sitting racking my brain my most obvious mistake is that I didn't get bloods precycle. I'm gonna kick myself forever for that. For all I know, my levels have always been low. I've done a lot of things that could have affected them. I started smoking pot at 11, did acid at 12, drank a ton until I turned 22. Did a lot of X and other various hallucinogens. I don't know, maybe none of that did anything. Maybe all of that destroyed my natty test.
maybe some hcg ?
Was your pct def legit ? Just asking... Numbers suggest possibly.. Did you get a before bloods too?
Pct chems were definitely legit. I got bloods in the middle of my PCT
FSH : 12.5 in a scale of 1.5 - 12.4
LH : 15.9 on a scale of 1.7 - 8.6
http://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/26814/image_6.jpg
waltrcan you elaborate on what the cycle was?
hope you recover more fully though dude =/
Test e 12 weeks at 500mg a week
2 week prop taper at 100mg EOD.
Pretty standard beginners cycle.
I am on the same cycle and like you did not do pre-cycle bloods. Listen to us ya'll GET THE PRE-CYCLE BLOODS!!
Hang in there bro, I am sure you will bump back up.