THIS ARTICLE SAYS ALL PROVIRON IS FAKE. AM I BEING SCAMMED?
http://www.steroidsrx.com/Articles/Proviron.cfm
Guys and girls, after doing research for weeks on what to put in my body with the gear Im taking, I found that Proviron, old school or not is what I need. I have no sides like gyno or testicular atrophy, nothing. I just am very bloated as most of the gains from the test I took seem to go to my face. I went from 170-185 and I cant see where the weght went, just my face and calves and now a tint bit in upper arms(but just bulk). I feel like Im getting a good start to look like Tom Platz used to look like in the old days! -) So being I just want to get rid if the bloat, and I dont want anything harsh, and id love to have something that would let the "free floating" test bind more to where it has to go, proviron is the ticket for me. Problem is this-Bayer is the only co. that ever mfg. this product and they havent made any in 20 yrs! Mine came in strips of 10 or 20 ,small white pills that say Bayer on the mettalic back,
question: Why would anyone in his right mind counterfeit Bayers name and go thry all the cost of packaging it in sealed individual strips, rather then just sell me bottles generic UGL named labs do right here on this great site? I have only been on it 2 days and I woke up with massive itching from my nap, and now 60 min later, its abating. Im also on Tren A for the 4th day. Its going to piss me off to stop both of them as tren A is the only thing I have used after 10 weeks on Sust and dbol that has given me any gains besides water weight.
Also...if this article is true, how can I trust the UGL's to be able to copy the right drug, or is it possible that even the underground generics are "off" in some way? Id appreciate some help here. If anything I wouldnt want anyone to get a bad reaction to this and end up in the emergency room.
BTW....Without mentioning any names, the guys I bought this from in Turkey or Thailand(cant remember) also sell the gen-shi and roid plus brands of gear which some of you say is very reliable. So what does all this mean? SHOULD i STOP BOTH THE TREN AND THE PROVIRON? Anyone have a reaction like this before? Also, I had a lot of anxiety today which is probably tren related, not proviron related.
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Nitti's bloods prove otherwise....
http://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-on-naps
http://www.bayerresources.com.au/resources/uploads/PI/file9420.pdf
Updated last in 2009 written in 2007 HHmmm took me 30 seconds on google.
So according to their site .... Bayer... they sell it in strips and bottles in 2009 .
After all, why do we trust the top rated resellers on this board alone? Gee whiz....yuh think maybe because they do not try to pass their gear off as real top grade pharma and use their own label? Yuh think......????
Would anyone buy dbol on this site from anyone if it said Bayer on the bottle or tablet,and we know Bayer never ever made dbol????? I doubt it. Bullshit leads to more bullshit. We all love buying from the little gree man because he tells you..............he's the little green man, not bayer or pfizer or Organon!!!! Thats all Im saying. And why do I need an AI asap if I never needed one in 4 cycles and what about the possibility of becoming dependent on the ai. Im also hearing scary stories about guys using NOLVA and THEN getting gyno after they stop the nova. All Im saying is...if it aint broken, dont fix it" might be one way to do things,especially if you dont get sides.......like me. I bet 1/3 of the guys on this board are either too cheap or too scared to add ai's or SERMs to their stack. Anyone want to take me up on that?
I'm going to say this as nicely as I can.. FAIL !!
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wow. just stop now.. just stop. smh.. I think I'm going to bookmark this so that I can refer to your quote down below for nubs.. that's right a nub.. beyond that of a noob (newb)..
I think my advice is the best advice for you.. STOP - stick to test until you get some education, jesus if that's even possible for you.
Guess what proviron is mesterolone. Just because it may not be manufactured anymore doesn't mean underground labs don't make it. Dianabol is not produced by drug companies anymore BUT DBOL IS STILL FLOATING AROUND
j223,
I am not as smart as you guys, but trust me I did not fall off the bananna truck last week. In fact, most of the complaints I see on these board are from guys who buy sustanon and they get the Organon amp, and they are now first starting to worry, because if its not really organon(it might be) whos to say its really gear at all!
Most people, MARS.....newbies or not, are OK with knock offs.If I buy dianabol that says" joe blows" dbol on the bottle, i dont care. But if I buy dbol that says schering on it...we have a problem. So do most other guys. But dont worry, I will fail just for you. Im glad you are an isolated case in this world. Its so sad how many people find the time on a board to tear someone down and wish them to fail, but so few find the time to build them up. Cudo to you guys who really help others. Thanx!
Back to you j123, Im on 500ml sust a week, and I cut out the 30mg dbol as of last week. (Personal reasons) I then added in the tren 4 days ago and wow.................what a difference. Now thats what Im talking about!
Now, back to the negative people here.................when I got my dbol, it came in tin foil. It was blue and heart shaped. I also am probably the only guy on this board to actually get dbol from a doctors prescription.(deca durobolin as well) Yeah, im 54, life goes on. And I trained at lou ferrignos gym(R&J health studio) in bklyn where we didnt even know what AI's were and its kinda sad, but we didnt need 3 months of research to find out what to put in our body. For bulking, there were 3 "trusted" compounds: dbol, deca-d., and test.(mostly enanthate or cypionate) Anadrol was scary for even the pros back then. The only thing we didnt have was a knowledge that our body could handle the unbelievable doses some guys use today.But isnt it funny most guys use those same 3 things 30 yrs later!!!? Happy training everyone.
I don't understand your argument or complaint at all. First, with your original take on proviron. There are plenty of compounding pharmacies producing the same raw materials. They just might not be doing it legally. Also, bayer does still manufacture proviron just go to their website.
Second, you aren't taking any test how would proviron help you in any way. You have to take some test to supplement your loss of natural testosterone production.
Third, also I can guess just from your research it is way too freaking early for you to consider tren. Especially without an anti-prolactin and no testosterone.
Lastly, all you can trust is your planning. But, the quality of product from UGL's is totally based of trust, and educated guesswork. No guarantees in this lifestyle. Just trust your research hedge your bets, and when things go bad have a good PCT ready for a fail safe.
Broctavious, thanks. If you can send me a link to anything Bayer has on their website concerning proviron,id appreciate it. Just came from their because of what you said and there is nothing, despite 2 links that come up with the search-word. I appreciate your realistic observations.
http://www.bayerresources.com.au/resources/uploads/CMI/file9419.pdf
Look at the date at the bottom of the PDF
lol
One last thing....I have read that some guys have used tren A. in place of a AI. Is this a correct strategy in some cases?
absolutely not...and proviron will not take the place of an ai either
you are on tren? dude you have a prolactin problem...not an e2 problem edit along with the dbol it sounds like you have an e2 and a prolactin problem...you need to start an ai asap and either caber or prami asap. caber would be dosed at .5mg e3d and prami would be dosed at .5mg ed. for an immediate help start dosing vitamen b6 at 300mg 2 x a day. vitamin e and l-dopa will also help with prolactin levels
EDIT: the post is a bit confusing...what are you currently running?