whats happening?
First cycle was test 400, prop, and masteron. (test at 600 and mast at 300 per week) Ya i know a stupid cycle was not hip to forums and was one of those dummies that didint do the homework.. I have done nothing but read the whole year on proper cycling. and pct. I did pct the last cycle clomed/ nolva and took letro to cure gyno small gyno issue. I am 5' 5" weighing 155-160 age 24 10% bf
Now my question. I finished my cycle 6 months ago( included PCT time) now here is how I felt after cycle. Month 1-3 horny like normal felt good.month 4-6 felt no desire for sex really. Not horny much. Now for what I think is happening and this is were I need opinions. Months 4-6 I started college full time (10 credit hours) while working 55 hours a week and training aprox. 5 days. A week. While dieting strict Now could stress be the lack of lost sex drive or do you believe something could be wrong? Im married and the wife and I would have sex 3-4 x a week. After starting school its like 1 a week. Now I don't have a problem getting hard at all but its not like it used to be random all the time. Im thinking just stress and full plate of things going on in my life. What does the e roids family think? Thank you for all input.
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Really weird but awesome! After talking with all of you and agreeing with me it may be a stress factor that must of removed some stress from me. I have had random hard ons all day. !!!" Feel good. Lol Thanks guys.
With AAS users, libido issues all almost always related to high/low estradiol.
Estradiol also stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system - if it's low you will feel very unmotivated and tired.
his libido was strong for 3 months after pct. wasn't until 4 months that it dipped, and he simultaneously began school plus working 50+hrs a week. most likely stress induced...
Well, based on his last reply, you may have called it.
Another reason I ask is my next cycle if im.g2g is
Test e 15 weeks 500mg
Eq 13 weeks 700mg
Exemstane 6.25mg eod. Bumped up if needed
PCT clomed, nolva 100/100 50/50
40/40/20/20
why these numbers? odd number of weeks on each. plus, it's only your second cycle?
These #s from reading on the forum. Before I joined I read alot of a guy on here zewi. And it seemed thats what he recommended as a beginner basic cycle. .....And I have 3 test e vials and 3 eq and I have exemstane 50 25 mg tabs. I have clomed and nolva all on hand. I have everything I need. Now that hormone test would you say its accurate and how does it work thanks.
RustyhookerThose bottles dont equal the proper dosing and time. Also, I run eq as my main choice and those numbers did not come from zewi. Also, as your second cycle youre jumping in without proper reserch yet again which is why your drive is already down in the dumper. Eating and training properly year round has the greatest effect on our systems. If youre losing mass or feeling bummed, lethargic hows your diet? did you run bloods? Also, as someone who went thru full time college and worked full time, you have NO TIME whatsoever to fully continue or begin a cycle. Your school and family will suffer. Ive tried it several times and it flat cant happen. Graduate! Get that fat job THEN come back with a proper first cycle.
Copy pasted
Only cause uncle zewi cares.
1-16 Test E @ 500mg a week 1-14 EQ @ 400mg a week
Start AI at week 4. Arimidex .25mg eod if nipples get sore .5mg eod. or you can use Aromisin 12.5mg EOD. Your choice.
Pct start 15 days after last test e shot clomid 100/100/50/50 nova 40/40/20/20. So yes my numbers are a little off
RustyhookerAnother reason I ask is my next cycle if im.g2g is
Test e 15 weeks 500mg
Eq 13 weeks 700mg
Thanks for posting zewis numbers! This is the OP's idea of zewi. Hes gotta research
I actually know zewi, and trust me when I say that he wouldn't recommend this for a second cycle.
Personally, and I guarantee you most will agree, for your second cycle you should run it like you should have ran the first. Get it right so you can take it to the next level. The hit and miss thing isn't for AAS.
Test E with a prop kicker and taper is what you should do. Total of 12 weeks then 3 week taper. That's 15 weeks and pct starts 3 days after last pin. If you want, I'll lay it out for you.
Do this right and next cycle we can take you to the next level with a new compound and longer duration.
yes I would love to see a cycle design by you. I am always open to new ideas and opinions. Now here is what I have on hand
3 10ml CENSORED test e 250
3 10ml CENSORED eq 300
20 d bold tabs 50mg
50 exemstane tabs 25mg
40 clomed 50ng
40 nolva 20mg.
btw, your above post was "censored" because you mentioned labs in them, which violates the rule of no source/lab talk in the open forums. luckily, they didn't gank your karma. future reference: let's keep those details to ourselves or PM's. cool?
would you be willing to keep and open mind and set the eq and dbol to the side for this cycle?
Always open minded. Even though this is all I have. Im sure i can get other compounds.
ok. here ya go:
Cycle:
Wk 1-4 test prop @ 100mg EOD
Wk 1-12 test E @ 500mg (split)
Wk 13-15 test prop @ 100 EOD
Aromasin @ 6.25-12.5 ED wk 2-15
PCT: (starts 3 days after last prop pin)
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Aromasin: 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Time Off:
19-20 weeks: Time On + PCT = Time Off
Nice bro. Thank you. It looks amazing.
Ahhhh now were talking............. nice doss!
well thought out for a second run +3 brother
Y ou see what i mean about OPs copy/pasting written cycles.. and STILL getting it wrong..... thats why im not keen on them strew all over the place...... but this one is different because its PERFECT.
thanks, brotha. i kept my old posts on my hard drive so i can refer to them when people need the info. it's one of the cycles i had in the beginner's group before i left.
how's everything with you?
Gonna be a bad day friday bro but the family is holding strong, so its pull up the boot straps and grind on forwards as always:)
really sorry to hear about things. life always brings both the good and the bad with our days. we get out of them what we put into them, but we can never avoid them. i feel for you you bro, and wish the best of the situation for you and your family.
Thankyou brother.. much appreciated
I do apologize. That's all I can say. I had numbers wrong. Whoops.
Wow thanks for the quick responses guys. The letro I didn't run during PCT. I did letro when I noticed gyno symptoms. ( puffy nipples) I did letro. 25 mg for two weeks leading up to my PCT. How do I go about getting blood work. Do I have to have a doctor order it in for me. Or can I just go to the blood place lol. I have had blood work done before but for a wellnes. Check for health insurance. (Organs were good!) But did not do my text levels.
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you sure that was letro?? 25mg is HIGH for letro, bro... read this on AI's, so you get a better understanding of their roles and recommended doses:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-as-needed-...
And if the test is for "woman" how do I know where about my numbers should be. Im going to order one.
We use this test bc it gives us total test, e2, LH, and FSH without having to pay extra for the estrogen. Idk what the range is for your age. You should be able to look it up.
.25mg letro liquid from a source I found on here
could be the stress. if you made it 3 months past pct and the libido was fine, then chances are it's not an HPTA axis issue. if you really want to know, then run some blood work and see where the levels are at.
it is possible that it could be estrogen related. i say this because you followed up an undisclosed cycle length of 600mg of test with no AI on-cycle. the masteron will have had a positive effect on estrogen regulation but not to the extent of an AI. so, estrogen on-cycle was allowed to elevate, hence the gyno. during PCT you ran letro, which does a great job of lowering estrogen. problem with letro is that, when not ran properly, it can cause estrogen rebound after it's discontinued. so, without bridging the letro with a type 1 inhibitor like aromasin, the enzymes bound to the letro were released once the drug wore off. this allows the enzymes to resume their roles in estrogen synthesis.
i doubt that this is an issue if you've not experienced any gyno symptoms following your PCT. you could always run the blood panel to check, if you like. very much possible that it is stress related.
Rustyhookerfully agree
I think you need to get blood work...estrogen, progesterone, prolactin.
Determine what is out of whack and go from there. Stress can definitely please a roll, but you won't know anything for sure until you check your levels.
i wouldn't waste the money on the progesterone and prolactin panels. he didn't run a 19 during his cycle. if it's not stress related, then it's the result of estrogen rebound by not tapering the letro and bridging with aromasin.
Correct you are sir. Glad you pointed that out....I'm so used to running 19's myself lol.
More than likely stress since libido was fine out of PCT. Stress can wreak havoc on a person. I'd still run blood to be safe.