Thinking of adding EQ for tendon health........input needed
So i just started back to work and i do asphalt maintanence and it has given me tendenitis over the years, well its usually doesnt bug me until late the year usually around Oct. but it has started early this year....
well anyway i am a few weeks into my summer cut cycle and have read how eq was good for tendon health as it increases collegen in the tendons, this is my currant cycle i am on week 4 and was wondering would eq be beneficial for tendons or not a safe compound for currant cycle
week 1-2 test prop at 150 eod
week 2-10 test prop at 100 eod/ tren ace 100 eod
week 8-10 im going to add mast prop at 100 eod
week 10 -16 test prop 100 mg eod and mast prop 100 mg eod
week 17 test prop 100 mg oed
arimadex .5mg eod
pct is clomid 100/100/75/50/50/25 and arimedex .25-.5 mg e3d (nolvadex fucks with me)
and i do have caber running it .25 e3d and will up it if prolactin sides show there ugly head
Ive run many cycles, this is 3rd tren cycle 2nd time with mast but first time splitting them up the way i did,
just wondering if i threw in a low dose eq maybe 300 week would it be beneficial for tendons or would it not go so well
any input would be considered and appreciated
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EQ does nothing for tendons. the only things that seem to "Repair" connective tissue is HGH/IGF-1. EQ will increase a particular type of collagen but in turn throw the ratio of Type 1 to type 3 collagen and possibly cause more harm. Build up of type one will give the joints added support and lubrication which will give a false sense of security with lifts. Type 3 collagen is what repairs connective tissue and AAS does not increase the production of type 3. Look into peptides for this
Thymosin beta 4 can help with this kind of issues,tendoms and ligaments specially.
Sent F/R if you have time i could shoot you a pm as your wisdom could realy help me out to finish off what to do or what to change about my rehab cycle i have been planning the last 12 month was wanting to wait till i hit 22 and also leave time to recover without juice.I know your busy being a mod and active member and also having 400 plus mates you must get a shit load of pmz so if time is short i fully understand.cheers
Type 3 collagen is mostly found in skin and blood vessels and loose connective tissue.
When type 1 collagen is low and type 3 is high though, this is where the tendons are in a higher chance of having issues.
EQ, Deca, Anavar are all biomakers of type 1, 2 and 3 procollagen synthesis. Though testosterone in doses higher than about 300mg per week, decreases collagen synthesis. So running eq or deca kind of offsets this. This is why it usually makes people think it helps their joints.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2011916?dopt=Abstract
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl..._63985254/pg_1
but yea nitti is right, peptides might be your best bet
But by doing this it would help your joints on cycle would it not if you played it safe and stuck to rehabbing and not going full out bodybuilding training plan ? If i guy is running a rehab cycle for gains in lean muscle to support his joints but as he can not realy go heavy on legs and do no compound lifts the benifits of test would help him grow a lot easier even with light weights leading you to a betta and faster recovery.But you have the down side of the drop in collagen synthesis so you put your self in danger of injury but then you put some eq in there say 450 mg per week and some var at 50 mg daily for first 6 week till eq takes effect.then you keep your training safe,physio and do not push yourself to hard untill your out of your recovery period which all depends on what surgery you had and how fast you recover.it is normal for physio to say get your quads stronger and so on.i know a guy who did this never realy trained due to injury well not heavy but his legs kept growing in size faster than when he was 100% fit and he was walking,working great for the first time in 12 month and having the physio saying yea your doing great.do you not think there is a place for this in rehabbing ? I know this is more for cartilage and less for tendons but surly the added muscle would help tendona to.This is not an attack by the way am just wanting to learn even more as am due to use eq for a cartilage problem/surgerys ect and want to learn all i can and you seem to know your stuff bro and am here to learn and change what i think if needed.cheers
thank you! thats the knowledge i was seeking, i really have no experience with peptides but im sure someone will be able to help me out
Sorry for clogging your thread up with my posts which do not realy help you out but am allways wanting to learn and question stuff.also your post is on the same level as my situation/issues being thats what i am wanting help for work problems and so on.
Its all good, that's why were all here is to learn and help each other
RustyhookerPost a forum on your questions in general. Rehab? Off injury? Start a forum and get group help.
Yea was thinking that but sometimes it can cause more problems than good lol...
RustyhookerEq wont work as well in this instance for many reasons.
1-eq is such a long ester it wont kick til week 11
2- with tren already going it may complicate rbc, bp etc
3-you're already into the cycle a few Weeks...so see rule #1.
4-what's your estro at? Blood test? Low estro will cause joint pain and your cycle is very dry.
Maybe a npp brain can jump in and help with npp. It's double stacking nors but possibly an option.
I haven't gotten blood done since end of last pct and wasn't going to till around week 8-10 and again at end of pct....but the RBC was what I was kind of stressing I know when mine go to high I get bloody noses like a motherfucker......I know its not estrogen related joints are fine its just tendons in right arm at elbow and happens from work, I've hired more guys so I can relax a bit and hopefully it goes away
RustyhookerHydration helps a ton. I run eq often and definitly can tell when dehydrated. Baby aspirin daily helps as does no added salt. I've been manual worker and getting old sucks on the joints.
cycle looks like shit by the way, why 17 weeks of test prop???
also don't like tren at the beginning that doesn't make sense either. PCT looks terrible. AI dose seems really high for using masteron and such a low dose test prop. Overall this cycle just seems really off
Why not test prop? That's just what I chose like I said I've never split up tren and mast but wanted to experiment, so I chose all short esters just in case unfavorable sides show I can jump off...but do have plenty of cyp and enth on hand to switch.......just chose prop cause I like it more also
Here's why.
Tren Acetate needs to be injected daily. Test prop is best injected daily as well. The beginning of your cycle you are hitting tren then 7 weeks longer? Why? Why not just end the cycle.
This cycle would be better if you just ran enanthate 350mg per week and then you can hit tren daily 0.5ml is easy to do for daily injections. You said you already ran tren multiple times so if you are gonna do a long cycle why not use tren Enanthate????
"if sides get bad I can jump off" shouldn't you know by now how tren affects you? What sides are so horrible that running enanthate would be unacceptable? Night sweats? I just don't understand your logic here. If you are gonna run a 17 week cycle use enanthate and keep your dosages the same.
If you are worried about sides then have you tried the 2:1 ratio of tren to test approach? For some people sensitive to tren this helps reduce sides. If sides are really an issue then just run a short 8-10 weeker, why 17 weeks?
the reason im doing tren beggining of cycle is im wanting to add a few lbs of lean mass if possible before shedding a few % bf.....just a experiment im kindda trying
my first tren test mast cycle was 75 mg eod for 8 weeks i leaned out and hardened up with out losing any weight and no side other then night sweats and loss of appettiite
second i ran 800 mg test e a week with 100 mg tren a eod was going to do 12 weeks for some lean mass but at week 10 prolactin hit hard and it was a bitch, so i ended cycle and got some caber going it was liquid but it did help......this time im going to keep it at 8 weeks running with caber at and decided to run prop to keep injection schedule easy, try to gain a few more lean lbs then add mast
i did think about the 2:1 approach but i really dont have to bad of sides for the higher test, i actually am ok with it i do believe last time i just ran it to long.....i dont mind the night sweats actually like them( the wife hates them) i wish it increased my appetite but for cutting the decrease does help and this time i have caber going so hopefully prolactin stays in check
my concern was if i added a small dose eq would it damage me more, i just read article that eq was good for tendons so before i did something stupid i wanted some input from you guys, before i just took on bro science and fucked myself
I feel like the end of your post should be BOOOOOOM!
Good info bud
Physio dnt realy work for what hes got it just comes and gos.I have had it since surgery it realy is shit i feel your pain bro its bad when its effecting your work.i would do this cycle now then pct plus time off then start to think about running a eq,var,low test e combo but since your running tren you myt also be good with deca and from your stats you seem ready for it.am running low test,eq this april for rehab.
That's kind if what I was thinking was to wait, I don't like running to many compounds at once but thought I'd see what others thought if it might do any good thanks for your input
Already have about 15 ml at 300mg/ ml so this would be cheaper and therapy only works for a few months , this is job related injuries that I get every year, then i have winters off work and go back in spring so I heal just to reinjure.....just seemed to happen faster this year....looking for new work that my body can keep up with but in the meantime I do have bills to pay....
To be honest I think you would be better off just keeping your cash and spend it on some physio therapy.