posted Tue, 03/26/2013 - 05:01
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HELP - I need to get this show on the road. Clomid, Torem, Caber
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Clomid, Torem, Caber
Is what I have been recommended, this is because my sex drive is in the dirt, I am 20 and I Cycled with Test and Tren and did not Properly PCT at the time it was needed. I have been off for 2 1/2 months and my Sex Drive and Libido is still shot I have been recommended to take clomid, torem, and caber for 4 weeks.
I have been different opinions on the dosing on each of these,
I really need help coming to a conclusion of what dose on each is appropiate so I can get these PCTs.
Thanks Alot
also any recommended sources for all is appreciated, I am thinking of just going through ADC
Thanks again
Mindfuless
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mwagner630 has a couple threads that say all them. hes not home or id have him post them for ya. look under his threads youll find everything you need, even liquid dosing protocol using a 1ml doser
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angusYou need help, I agree. I'm not even going to tell you what a dumbass you are for running tren at age 20 or how stupid you are for running a cycle at all even. That would be unneccesary as you now are living proof why you don't do those things. That being said, lets get you fixed up. Go to www.privatemdlabs.com and order the Hormone Panel for Females as well as the prolactin. You pay with a credit card, here is a coupon code: h5dd4eg and it's worth 15% discount. They will ask you which lab you want to go to, email you the requisition, you will print it off and take it to your chosen lab. They draw the blood, and then the results are emailed to you the next day. No doctors, no questions, no nothing. You don't even have to use your own name if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy.
When you have the results post them up in the picture section under labs and we can tell you EXACTLY what you need to take, how much you need to take of it, and for how long you need to take. It will cost you $89.00, question is....is it worth it? Or would you rather throw a bunch of money in ancillaries at your problem and hope something will work? If you post up the results i'll turn an expert on to your cause and he will work with you everyday till your wood stands free and tall. It's all up to you, but I know if it were me I'd fucking knock off a bank if I had to to get the money to pay for my shit to work.
^^^^^good advice
disregard everything i said, ^this guy^ couldnt be more right and i strongly suggest you take his advice
i take it you havent had bloods done then? without those man, most any advice you'll get from us is simply speculation. caber's pretty expensive yo, and you may not even have high prolactin levels for all we know. my opinion on nolva vs torem - if you can get the torem, i would hands down use that instead. theres not nearly as much solid tried and true experience with it, but the shared experience ive seen all is saying its far more effective than nolva.
as far as caber and prolactin - your libido is in the shitter now, thats established. but what what it like on cycle? were you using a prolactin inhibitor then? im anything but an expert but if your sex drive was good then, especially w/out an inhibitor, i suspect prolactin maybe isnt the culprit right now either. this is gonna get a lil wierd but try not to make it so - libido is low, but hows the quality of your hard-ons? do they go limp on you or can you get off but its a bitch to get there? i ask because those were my own symptoms of high prolactin levels. the only reason i ask any of this is because im tryin to see if you can get away with not using caber and save yourself the $ if its unecessary
Hey I had a better sex drive on cycle and it was really good, As far as erection I had trouble getting it hard and when it got hard if I lost concentration I lost it. The quality of my hardon is not the way it use to be
well that could very well be high estro and low t rather than high prolactin based on your sex drive being good while on cycle, but if you've got the money then i'd get caber as well to go with the torem and clomid. im no expert like i said, but would personally run torem at 120/90/60/30 and clomid 100/100/50/50. caber i wanna say .5mg e3d, but not 100% on that so research more on that to establish exactly what dosage to run. if cash flow is a concern, rather than waiting and savng to get all 3 i'd get the torem and clomid at the very least asap and use them. something else to maybe look into that could help spike natty t levels would be d aspartic acid, id highly recommend this stuff called intimidate. its actually what i use for my pct's alongside torem, clomid, and unleashed. gets kinda expensive but imo most imprtnt part of my cycle. dont see any reason why it couldnt be used in exact same format as a 2nd post cycle ...
Both e2 and prolactin were allowed to go unchecked during cycle. The elevated levels in combination with the unrecovered hpta function makes for no sex drive. All factors alone can cause this. Combined, it's worse.
Nolvadex would be a bad idea if you were still running the 19. You're not and have been off it for 2.5 months. You're safe to run nolvadex IMO. Clomid, nolvadex, and caber. You can run torem if you want - not a bad idea - but nolvadex will work for you at this point.
Hey Dossier, Thank you for your swift reply. I want to thank you for your expertise and insight not only for myself but others on this site as well.
So dosage (mg) should I go with in a XX/XX/XX format?
Thanks, Again
Mindfuless
You're welcome bro. That's what we're here for.
As for your question: the following format is daily doses per week:
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Caber: omnom gave you some advice there in your other post.
I'd like to think e2 levels would be stabile by now, but won't know for sure unless they're checked. If they're moderately high, an mild AI dose should suffice. If they're extremely high, a more aggressive approach plus an adjustment to the above nolvadex.