posted Wed, 03/20/2013 - 18:45
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Body fat guess? Too fat to cycle?
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Not sure what my body fat is but I feel like it's pretty high. What do you guys think it's at, is it too high for a test cycle? I recently cut from 215 and am about 190 now but not sure if I should keep cutting or not?
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I'd stay away from long esters as you never want to take long esters when cutting. It just makes you look even bigger than you r. Keep the diet in check and cardio, Remember
Those two things come before gear. I'd say
Hit
Some test P, tren A, mast, and a little var and you should like your resukts
AnonYea just advise a harsh ass cycle without knowing the guys experience.....your gonna mess him up
sgtstedankoSurfer dude, I think you've been smoking a little too much weed, brother. Take a nap
How can you recommend compounds, w/out knowing what dudes experience w/them are? Hell, why not toss in a dollup of winny & primo in to the mix as well?
Hey those were my suggestions, but you forgot the Clen and DNP, He is cutting! Warning this is a joke
I'd say 18-20%.
Personally that BF is not too high to cycle IMHO. However, as some if these bros have already stated: I would say diet needs to be in check as well as training. Both you might want to work on best you can, first.
Good Luck bro.
20 to 25% If i was you I would think more about the time you have spent in the gym. Your joints take a huge load when you 1st start lifting. You need to be lifting for awhile before AAS as well. Bust your ass in the gym for a year and then reevaluate. Try out the stair stepper. Work your way up until you can go 4 hours a week on highest level. I would think of it as only needing to lose 30 pounds of fat. In a year you should be able to take your body and turn it into a head turner. You have a lot better base than some so be thankful. Also If you are on your 3rd cycle dose or opinion really matter?I would try to maintain muscle and cardio my ass to death. Sprints,30seconds to 1 minute then to 2 minute rounds on heavy bag,yoga, and that stair stepper.
AnonI have been lifting for 7 years bro. Also I lied about doing two cycles already I just said that to get info on certain compounds to avoid the whole test only speech which is stupid yea, but I am going to do test only as my first cycle
sorry pic looks like you been lifting few weeks. maybe 4 months. I think I would hold off on cycle until I could figure out what I was doing so wrong that I was not getting gains. Has to be workout,diet,or sleep but something is very wrong for working out that long and not gaining muscle.
AnonWhat do u guys recommend for cardio? Unfortunately I dnt have access to many great foods due to being at school but I do the best I can with what I have available
There's no reason not to have a good diet, and school is def. not an excuse. Buy 1-2 weeks worth of groceries and plan/cook all your meals out ahead of time so your prepared. I'm a full time student also but I keep my diet dead on, and so can you. It just takes some effort and planning ahead.
AnonHIIT or fasted cardio first thing in the morning.
But you should figure out your diet first. Either pack a lunch or figure out where to get clean foods.
Most of us do it, you can do it too.
Anon~16%
It'd be wise to begin your cycle around 12%. However, there's nothing wrong with cycling at a higher bodyfat percentage, you just wont look as good. You've already dropped 25lbs, if you can drop another 10lbs I think you'd be in a good position to cycle with great results.
AnonYea that's what I was thinking as well. I planned on starting cycle around 180 but I feel I have lost muscle as well
AnonYou definitely have. Cutting even with anabolics results in some degree of muscle loss. The quicker you cut the more muscle you stand to lose. I wouldnt worry about it too much. Muscle memory is an amazing thing. I got injured, couldnt work out and lost 30lbs. When my injury healed, I hit the gym again and put that 30lbs back on in under 2 months natty.
Basically what Im getting at is that any muscle you lose now while you cut will come back very quickly when you get your calories out of a deficit. Also since your cutting Im assuming your carbs are low which means less glycogen which results in a flat look.
AnonYour never to fat to gain strength and muscle, everyone who says you should cut body fat before you start a cycle is just for show. I'm in it for the strength and power... but if your going after shirtless moments for no reasons then yes, cut weight then add muscle because all know its hard to cut weight when your ingesting 4000 calories a day.
I'm gonna say 18-20%
AnonReally that high? Well fuck me lol I thought maybe 15
I think 15 or 16....18 to 20 is too high
No way, he is a lot closer to 20%
X2. I'd go for 18-20%
Maybe his stomach hair threw me off but I don't like using these photos as a reference just because different body types hold fat differently. Also, if he had more of a core it'd be a lot easier to tell. There's plenty of people at "20%" body fat with abs looking like 15% and vise versu. Maybe you're right and it's just hard to tell from the photo he posted.
Pics are never going to tell u true bodyfat, these are the closest I can find. People tend to think 15% bf is when abs start to show, not the case. The most accurate way to test bf is the water test.
sgtstedankoBy your pictograph, I'm 10-12%. My calipers are lying to me! I ain't gonna be happy till i get down to 3%. God Damn gummi bears : (
Do you think our boy here's a candidate for the bodybuilder/sarge alliance foundation's low dose run your butt off & push program?
10-12 is not a bad bodyfat to be walking around at bro, it's good condition.
I say he is a go.
sgtstedankoAgreed. I'm gonna request his friendship...
AnonYou mind explaining this program a little more?
sgtstedankoPm me, & I'll give you the particulars. Also, I'll confer w/my foundation's chairman
Oh, & follow this to a T... Minus the cycle...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/the...
I have that same picture and I've wondered about it. I'm thinking that the BF% numbers are at the lowest end of the range as viewed here. In other words someone may be a couple points higher than pictured and be accurate. What's your take?
sgtstedankoI certainly hope so :/
Agreed