posted Fri, 02/01/2013 - 11:02
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Anavar and EQ cycle
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So i have a buddy looking to do just anavar and EQ... no test.
anavar weeks 1-8
eq weeks 1-16
What do you guys think about this, he just wants minimal sides and to harden up. i think there needs to be a little test in the cycle. thoughts? has anyone run something like this?
i have ran primo and EQ qith no test and had great results, i guess this would be like the same thing?
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Even with mild anabolic steroids you need a little test to keep your boys happy, at your age this isn't a problem but as you get older this could cause a problem with natural test levels. I recommend a small dose at least say 200mg/w
I've got a few questions first before i advise;
1) Are you male or female?
2) What are your planned dosages?
3) Why use anavar as a 'kicker'?
4) Where's your AI?
5) Where's your PCT?
6) Where's your T E S T O S T E R O N E (if you're a male)
7) What are your goals?
8) What is your cycle history?
samick941-male
2-600mg eq 200mg primo e5d
3- idk he wants to harden up and then stay hard i have to ask about that and get back
4/5- pct would be my protocol and ai i told him adex .5 e3d since it should not spike the estro too much
6- thats what i asked him, i want to give him a good reason to add test, he just doesnt want to bloat up, but i said every cycle has to be run with test... TEST IS GOD
7- he wants to harden up and stay lean over the summer
8- IDK i know i helped with his first which was just sust, and if i remember correctly he did two cycles after that which was test/winny. then he did test/tbol
Ok,
I know your stats (which are on your profile), but what are your buddy's stats?
Stats:
Age: ?
Height: ?
Weight: ?
BF: ?
2) Secondly, there's no mention of primo in your forum post (OP), are you adding anavar? and what cycle number is this?
3) Anavar would usually be used towards the end of a cycle.
4/5) I know your AI protocol, but what's your/his PCT protocol?
6) Test is the basis of all cycles. It helps you maintain sexual function and makes your recovery easier. If that's not enough of a factor to make sure he uses test in this cycle then he's not ready to cycle, simple. (Also if he's bloating up too much, either his dose of test is way too high, and/or he's not using his AI at an optimal dosage).
8) In order to fully advise you, i need to know his FULL cycle history, including weeks he ran each compound for, AI use, PCT use, and whether he took the required time off.
samick94Age-27
height- 5-10
weight- ~210-215
BF- 12-14 percent rang but is slowing coming down since i am helping him with diet. i want to get him at 10percent before hoping back "on"
2)sorry i was thinking about something else while typing i worked late last night and started today at 4am. im alittle out of it.
it is 600mg/w of EQ and 80mg var ed
3- ok
4/5) http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-for-advan...
Minus the MK-2866
6) ill will show him this / tell him again
7) he lost track of exact numbers. but i know most cycles were 10 weeks that he ran.
thanks alot for the info. i think im just going to advise him to look through this site and learn on his own, at least this way the knowledge will stick. of coarse i will advise him what you told me.
That's always the best thing.
A person learns through personal experience. Being told something is nowhere near as memorable as learning something from experiencing an action, since your reticular activation system (the RAS in your brain, which decides if you will memorise something in the short term or in the long term) will not be stimulated.
samick94exactly brother, it is best for him to get his nose in the books, that way he will retain more info. i just was looking for advice to share. and i got it
thanks again P.... by the way ive been following your gear pic/review and amazing job, very detailed and to the point on each product/ lab
Thanks bro, that's what this site was originally for, reviews - but i provide a unique point, where i try and make all of my posts as detailed as possible, so that people understand why i am offering them this advice, as opposed to just telling them to do it 1 way, which is the only way.
without testosteron -> :-(
Dont run ANY cycle without test. You at least want to use enough to keep you at baseline if nothing else, I wouldnt go below 300mg/wk personally no matter what Im runing and thats if its test e. I dont think anyone would advise a cycle with no test. Tell your buddy he needs to research a little more and come up with a better cycle.
samick94thats exactly what i said. i told him to use prop or ace to stay lean and keep the water off. i know i did get good results without the test but i remember having a hard time recovering