+ 5 The importance of getting LABS done before self administering AAS to cure what ails you
I see quite a few posts regarding women's libido and two things really stick out to me. The first is that almost all the entries are made by men and the second is hardly any mention is made regarding getting labs done.
There are so many factors that affect a woman's libido, not just lack of a hormone(s). The first step in correcting a low libido is getting labs done, having a comprehensive test done to include everything including liver/kidney functioning, cholesterol, mineral levels (especially magnesium, which is essential part of processing that which is released by the endocrine system) testosterone levels, thyroid, free thyroid, and the big three, estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone.
Getting labs done rules out the physical basis for any issues that one might have including but not limited to: issues sleeping, irritability, memory loss, weight gain, weight loss, dry skin, edema, and the important one for the men, low libido.
Once labs have been done and the physiological aspects have been ruled out, it is time to look at other issues. Today's expectations placed on women are much greater than in the past. Women are expected to work, take care of the household duties, watch the children, take care of her man, etc, etc, etc. Add to this the stress of a difficult job, dislike of a job, feeling over whelmed, wanting to have sex or be physically intimate just doesn't make it to the top of the list. Not to mention that for women (as has been pointed out) the menstrual cycle also plays a big role in a woman's libido.
People want to rush in and say "throw some test prop at her" but the issue is that adding testosterone may address a symptom and the physiological aspect but not the emotional aspect. If you haven't noticed, when it comes to sex, women are emotional creatures, we have to "FEEL" like it. If we don't feel in tune with our man or our lives are hectic and we are thinking about what we have to do later or in the morning, having sex isn't going to make it to the list of priorities.
Suggesting that a woman use caber to treat low libido is just downright inexcusable especially without knowledge of labs. Prolactin levels are balanced by progesterone and dopamine. Messing around with caber would/could be disastrous as the cause is usually a tumor.
The real issue here is that we cannot solve "problems" by throwing a substance at it without finding the cause.
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Thank you again for this info. I am working on my first post and was happy that I had both pre and interim labs done
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Great read and totally agree with the importance of getting your lab work done. Over the course of the last several months, I've felt a noticeable difference in my drive and influx of emotions and I'm looking for the best approach to getting my levels checked and pursue any necessary correction. I'm hesitant in healthcare practitioners questioning my request. Is there a specific name for the comprehensive test to get? How do I go about getting my labs done logistically?
you can use privatemedlabs.com and or I think quest labs and request a female hormone panel they are about 60$
Thanks GRRL!
Curious about the logistics too.
Thank you for the post!
AnonThanks for writing this up. It's posts like this that caused me to get some baseline labs run. My last labs have showed some high bilirubin levels and so I'm headed to the doc next week to get it checked out. (Edit: Sorry just realized this was the ladies forum (found the thread in a search). I'm a dude
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Permalinkno big mtn.. Labs are important for everyone ;-)
Biologic1I am an expert on failed relationships...lol. But have been happily married for 8 years.
Men make a lot of mistakes mostly out of ignorance. It does not help that women refuse to respond directly, usually saying "if you don't know (what is wrong) then I am not going to tell you."
Women communicate differently, and keep score differently. Lets look at score keeping.
Guys think that large gifts = lots of points. "I bought her a Mercedes/diamond ring etc. for her birthday, I got 200 points and can cruise for the next 6 months." WRONG!
For women, it's 1 point. Take out the garbage, 1 point. Listen to her talk about her day, 1 point. Its all 1 point.
This leads to the second issue: Communication styles. Very, very different.
Your gal comes home from work, and wants to "talk about her day" NOO NOOO anything but that" you say!
Sorry guys, if you want to keep your house, if you want to sleep in the same house as your children, if you want to keep more than half of your paycheck, you damn well better listen to her talk about her day. Now here we get into different communication styles.
Here is how men communicate: I just put a huge assed stereo in my car, and it killed my alternator.
So I ask my friend "where can I get a beefier alternator.?". He immediately goes into problem solving mode, and recommends a shop.
When a woman is talking about her day, DO NOT GO NO PROBLEM SOLVING MODE!! She will hate you. She decided what she was going to do 4 hours ago. All she wants from you is for you to listen. That is it. Nod your hair and pretend you care. Don't go into problem solving mode!
"Oh a button fell of your shirt? What was that like for you, poor baby?" My wife hires and fires a lot of people. I HATE that shit, but you know what? I listen, I nod my head, I pretend that I care.
When she is done, she says "I love you baby." She expects you to say I love you back but I give a smart aleck response like "I know you do, sweety." then wait for it....wait for it...."baby, you are so mean" and she hits me on he shoulder. She knows I love her because I listened to her "day" talk.
Without a caring partner and selfless partner, no amt of aas can make a woman horny. It's all about the before and the after!
absolutely!
I plan to get blood work done before starting hgh, I found a lab but what am I asking them for exactly? Should I just tell them I want to check my hgh levels? I want to go in before I start to have a baseline, and then again after I've been on it for a month or two. (that's my current plan any lol )
shirlsguyMy question is more basic than that. I began TRT six weeks ago and the changes for me have been fantastic in that I can sleep through the night without sweating until the bed is soaked, I have more energy, and I get along with the children again. I also found the energy to workout again.
I used to be pretty big so the change in dimensions came about instantly. Needless to say, my wife wanted a 'taste' of what I have. Now, I'm not about to pin her with SUS 250, I love her, but I have decided to increase my TRT and thus have hands on Test-prop; which, I am comfortable giving her a try at.
So, I am in this constantly looking for what is safe for her. In agreement with your post, I find that most of the questions around Test-p for women is to increase libido, but I see some members who use it for performance.
After she had a surgery for a brain tumor, her entire life became hell, and I will not put it out into public, but suffice it to say that it took two years before she felt human, let alone like doing things. She took interest this summer and I hired her a personal trainer; whom she has been faithfully working with for three months now with great results.
My wife is already hot, and when health permits, she satisfies my every desire. But, she is quite interested in the good feeling and we want to really investigate what is safe for her. Reasons for her not going to her GP are hers, but they are compelling, we have plenty of blood tests from her tumor, surgeries and follow ups, not to mention hypo-thyroidism.
I have been planning to reach out to a woman member or two to ask the question about taking test-p (I think about 10mg e3d is massive for a woman?) just to plain feel more energetic and to develop hard muscle tone.
I am happy to hear that your wife is on the upside. I ve run doses at 50-100mg e3d however, it should be painfully obvious that I am looking for performance results and not just an increase in libido. Starting with 10mg e3d seems to be a pretty standard place for most women looking for an increase in libido to start.
My question is though why not go to a doctor that specializes in hormone replacement for women? Low estrogen and progesterone levels certainly play a part in the lack of libido in addition to low T. Why not at least explore that avenue as well? I understand that I don't have all the info and given that she had a brain tumor doctors may be very reluctant to prescribe estrogen and progesterone replacement.
shirlsguyThanks for all the input, discussion is now over for the missus and me, it is a matter of seeing results. Hey, one thing I have never seen posted by a bro or told to a bro for this topic (always seems to be men in this topic)... syringe size... for us a 2cc syringe works just great. Try and pull 0.10 cc into one of those accurately!
Here is a hint I would give to anyone before trying to help pin their Betty... get a 0.50 syringe. I don't think we can pull an accurate does in a 2.0. Cheers
http://www.dimensionsinfo.com/medical-syringes-dimensions/
Just out of curiosity. What would 10mg of prop e3d do for a woman? Pros and cons?
shirlsguy1) Performance: http://www.livestrong.com/article/321576-testosterone-for-muscle-growth-...
2) Sexual Function: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/testosterone-therapy/AN01390
NOTE: "An overdose of androgens may cause seizures, hepatitis, problems with blood clot formation, or other serious health problems. Taking DHEA and testosterone together may be dangerous... ...Testosterone should not be taken during pregnancy, because it affects a growing fetus. If you use testosterone and could become pregnant, use highly effective birth control." http://women.webmd.com/testosterone-for-women
I have looked at the posted photos on this site and (1) above is clearly proven; I have read the forum and (2) is often proven. I entered this forum because I heavily agree that if (2) is motivation, then a doctor is pretty important, though I don't think any prescribe 10mg e3d. If (1) is the primary reason, then a doctor is still paramount, but reality says that it becomes a matter which ultimately gets self-addressed. That is the frustration of legislatures, they practically strip us of the assistance of qualified medical personnel.
I have to chuckle a bit when I read statements put out by medical personel.. Those statements are made to cover thier ASSES in court and really have very little basis in reality. I can recall when Goth was using testim and all the warnings about what would happen though incidental contact with someone else.. quite ridiculous really when a tube of 50mg only had 5mg of test in it..
10mg of prop e3d should raise her libido quite nicely and give her a feeling of wellbeing ... I can personally attest to it and so can several other women here.
shirlsguyPretty much what I was hoping to hear, thanks. I hope this doesn't post three times now. arrrrgggggh
Is this something that can be done long term? Or is it something that should be cycled? If so how long? Sorry for picking your brain. The subject grabbed my attention for some reason
shirlsguydon't know why so many repeat postings, sorry. Running anti-virus in a minute.
shirlsguy'nother repeat, don't know how to delete it, but will clean it a bit.
Great post. Thanks KodiakQueen.
As a newbie I am really amazed at the amount and complexity of information flying around on here. Life is really no different and just finding the time and energy for sex gets harder as our lives become more complicated, not to mention our physiology.
i couldnt agree any more .hormone levels will have effects on women a lot
zewisWifeVery nice.
Nice one K-Q. Sorry I had a bit of a hand in the 'libido' talk. But we're def. getting bloods first before anything.
Hey... these are our loved ones after all ;)
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So true Queen! Without labs we don't have a solid footing to make a semi educated crack at self medicating. Really there are very few people outside of Drs who have the extensive knowledge base to even attempt a guess. But at least with accurate levels thru bloods we can begin our search for answers. It's funny u mention how a woman has to feel in the mood. Cuz when I was younger I didn't get that. Completely oblivious. Once I finally understood how important it was to my wife I started going the extra mile. And with my wife it's the little things. Sometimes it's a gift or maybe a nice text during the day. Hell sometimes it's me doing the dishes or the laundry. Point is now our sex life is better than ever and we don't make love as much as when we were younger. But it's the quality of it that more than makes up for it. Great post Queen!!! Hopefully ur first sticky!!! +1
Good for you GS9902! You obviously really love your wife, you should be commended. Everything worthwhile in life takes effort
such thoughtfulness,i should've married you
Good stuff. I wish more people understood this. Men & women are completely different. I myself am ready to go anytime/anywhere. Women as you said need to be "in the mood". Having children can also bring on big changes.