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-1 JB's possible next cycle (take me to next level)

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

This is the cycle i've been brainstorming to truly take me to the next level. For now im putting this up simply for others opinions.

1) For the base of this cycle is of course test. Ill be using a Sustanon ester base, it comes in 500mg per ML so at just 2 pins a week i have a flat 1000mg. This may seem high but my goals are extremely high and my work outs rigorous. This cycle i TRULY want to step it up and push past where my body is "suppose" to go.

2) This will be my first TRUE full cycle of tren. Ill be using a 400mg per ML base of tren eth split twice a week with my test shots. I have done tren but not in a full proper cycle and only in the acetate form, so i know i dont get bad sides from it and this is the only reason im planning on using the Eth ester.

3) Winny will run in conjunction with the end of my cycle. I know winny, i love winny, and at 50mg its the perfect dosage for me. Im finally working myself down to a BF % where winny REALLY helps, above 10% really doesnt..

4) Ive found FOR ME adex vs aromasin, my body reacts alot better with aromasin. No estro related bad sides and my recent bloods showed estro to be low, not gone, which is perfect. On my current cycle im taking 15mg (caps) ED and its given me the perfect amount of estrogen which i found out from my bloods. This will be the first time ive run it IN to pct, id like to know some more experienced eroiders thoughts on this, ive heard it helps bring back natty test production.

5) Ill be running the normal PCT 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20.

6) HGH is a possibility but not a probability with the cost...

7) HCG i have on hand but never found the need for it past cycles.

I always feel like im forgetting something when i post a cycle log so dont be afraid to chime in guys.

My work out routine will be brutal. Although i'm a full time student working on my masters, i always find the time for 3 hours every day to hit the iron and do cardio. Cardio is a big thing for me and a staple to my work out because i try to cut/ put lean mass on. Everyday i do a 1/2 jog PRIOR to working out. Than work out for 2 hours (Rotating workouts) and always finish my work out with a 2.5 mile run and Cold showa! The cardio has really helped to cut down over the past months and i plan to keep it that way while packing on lean muscle.

Have Prami on hand that IS legit, and caber on hand that we will know soon if its legit via mass spec.

In the coming months i hope to compete in some local shows and see where it takes me.!!

CONCERNS
1) If all compounds are in the right place for MAXIMUM efficiency.

WeekSustanon 500mgTren 400mgWinnyAromasinClomidNolvadexHGHHCGCaber/Prami
11000mg
21000mg
31000mg12.5mg ED
41000mg12.5mg ED
51000mg12.5mg ED
61000mg400mg12.5mg ED
71000mg400mg12.5mg ED
81000mg400mg12.5mg ED
91000mg400mg12.5mg ED
101000mg400mg50mg12.5mg ED
111000mg400mg50mg12.5mg ED
121000mg400mg50mg12.5mg ED
131000mg400mg50mg12.5mg ED
141000mg400mg50mg12.5mg ED
151000mg400mg50mg12.5mg ED
166.25mg ED
176.25mg ED
186.25mg ED10040
196.25mg ED10040
206.25mg ED5020
216.25mg ED5020
Carlos Danger's picture

Personally I wouldn't run this cycle. I've found things seem to work better for me when I run a TRT dose of test anytime I run tren. Also I'd run a single ester test to make things more stable on ur first Tren E run. Where's the prop kicker? Wherethe tren ace kicker? Expect to get shutdown hard from the tren so bust out that Hcg. Why bother having tools at ur disposal if u aren't planning on using them u til it may be too late. So swap the sust for Test E. 250-300mg wk. Prop kicker the first 5. Run some ace to kick for the tren e. HCG 250iu 2x a week to prevent a hard shutdown. Run the cycle 16 wks and taper bothe Test E and Tren E the last 3 wks with Prop. I will send u into PCT in 3 days I stead of weeks. Run the Aromasin unless ur body reacts negatively to it. It's just a better AI period end of story. But some folks don't like how strong it is. U want the most bang for ur buck always run a short ster kick and taper to ur long ester cycles.

Carlos Danger's picture

Also if this cycle is supposed to be life changing I'd post the diet u have planned in detail. To change ur life every aspect has to be nailed down to the smallest details. I see a lot of cycle logs and very few ever post their diets. I wonder why? If ur going to take this serious then u have to have ur diet written down somewhere. It u haven't written ur diet down on a piece of paper or on ur computer somewhere I wouldn't recommend touching tren or going around thi king ur life is Gunna change. Im not trying to sound like a dick bro I'm just being straight up and honest to a friend. I got ur back so I had to say it brother. Trust me I'm down 40lb this year and I had never written a diet down until this year. Once I took my diet serious I changed forever. If u don't want ur diet public that's cool too but pm me it so we can tweak it if needed. Holla at ur boy homie!

Carlos Danger's picture

Thats fucking awesome. I just got one yesterday. Well it's just a big ass whiteboard. Work was tossing it and I saw my new calendar. Lmao

killinit88's picture

looks good to me, nothing to extreme in my eyes really. only thing i have to say is what is the blend of the sust? I only ask cause you said you will only be pinning twice a week, could fuck with levels depending.

mjunkie's picture

looks ok but i have some questions/comments

why run test so high? we say it all the time and i dont wanna sound like a parrot lol but its true-diet will make u big not high doses, i think 750mg test is more then enough for anyone, add 500 cals and if ur not growing add 500 more until u are growing

and i know u said u ran tren but u didnt run a full cycle and for some ppl the bad sides only start in the 4th or 5th week, i think u should go with tren a, its definitely much easier to control (just in case)

mjunkie's picture

maybe try something like carb cycling, thats what im doing now and im gaining weight slowly while staying ripped, your heavier then me so u might have to switch it up a bit, but i do 400, 300, 200 carb days and then again...

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on a side note, happy growing nukka!

MAC's picture

My buddy is running this same cycle right now and he's loving it. Turning into a freak.
Actually I think he's running the test at a lower dose , I'm not sure all I know is he is obsessed with tren lol. But ya def good advanced cycle ur gonna put some solid muscle on and especially with the aromasin you'll keep bloat away.
Caber is hard to find (real) so my advice to you if u don't run it, is to get B6 and take 600mg per day, it will keep progesterone down I learned that from my same buddy who is running this cycle.

MAC's picture

Ohh ok, ya I've never used prami, how is it compared to caber?