THE best course of action for fatloss is STILL (and will always be) diet and cardio
I see posts like this and I always get the feeling someone is fishing for a shortcut LOL!
...and YES it is hightly recommended to get BF down before running test as to not agitate or induce certain health risks such as edema and high blood pressure
i wasnt really digging for shortcut.. just wanted to understand why the reason everyone suggests losing bodyfat before a trst cycle if test cycle make you lose fat. it was a little confusing. I have not done any cycles yet and wanted to learn.
I am 30 yrs old, 14% bf weight 83-84kg. I want to do my first cycle and just trying to figure out if i should still wait till i bring it down to about 10% or if 14 is an ok number.
I joined up cuz i wanted advice and wanted to learn more. Was even hoping i would find a metor who would help me.
Not saying YOU were but ppl try and find clever ways to extract info that they realize the board won't condone. Most ppl are generally lazy and seek shortcuts all the time, we see it here everyday
answer is the same. test is an amazing compound and with the right diet and training you can reach most goals from "cut" to "bulk"... So start researching diet plans and high rep training routines that will fit your goals.
This probably isn't what your wanting to hear, but my guess is that your probably below novice. Some guys on here will lay out compplete programs for you but IMO you would benefit more from digging in and doing some research on your own and come back with a cycle idea, basic diet and training routine and let us help you fine tune it
My routine:
Day 1: shoulders/biceps/30 mins cardio
Day 2:cardio 30 mins (am) legs (pm)
Day 3: abs/cardio 1hr
Day 4: chest/triceps/cardio 30 mins
Day 5: back/rear delts/traps/ cardio 30 mins
Day 6&7 cardio 1 hr
Diet :
Meal 1: 6 egg whites, 3 whole eggs
Meal 2: 50g whey protein
Meal 3: 6 oz chicken breast 1 cup brown rice
Meal 4: 50g whey protein
Meal 5: fish or steak 8 oz with veg and 1 cup brown rice (post workout)
Meal 6: 1 scoop whey 1 scoop casein
Supplements:
Multi vitamin ( optimen)
Omega 3 6 9
Vitamin c
Vitamin d3
Aminos
Bcaa
This is my routine and diet. I probably am a novice or below novice as I've only been training properly for 3 yrs. I am not sure if there is anything I can change. If you have any suggestions please do tell me. Appreciate you takibg the time to reply.
Ok so here is the deal bro, for example a guy who weights 225 do a first time cycle of Test only and loses 20 pounds and looks leaner and bigger, another guys does the same cycle he stands at 175 pounds and gain 25 pounds overall during the cycle, you know what i mean? Diet dictates everything bro. As far as esters, enanthate cypionate give you some water retention, while Propionate give you the less water gain. Hope this helps you a bit brotha
What u probably read about is the fact that as we age and test levels drop certain things begin to happen to our bodies, one being fat accumulation around the mid section.Yes I personally have seen the fat loss myself but Im in my 50s, your body starts to re-compose when test levels are brought back to youthful levels. However if you were to take test at cycle levels you could actually start to accumulate fat because of the estrogen build up if not controlled with serms or AIs.
Test cen be used as a cut cycle by just manipulating your carb intake. For instance to cut you cld cut your carbs down to 100 g day and stop any intake of carbs after say 2:00 pm. You want to cut some more? Cut your carb intake by 10:00 am. and thats how that works
Test is good for both gain and loss. Simply drop your calories for cut or up them for a bulk. Short esters are better for loss and long for bulk. Its not a good idea to use a cycle to loose fat before you do another cycle.
Sory buddy may have picked you up wrong there. Test is very good at helping to cut. When on a test only cycle if you tweak your diet and cardio it is surprising how quickly you see results. Im on now and my weight rocketed, I lowered my calories and it fell in a matter of days. Ive got a nice balance now where im floating at the same weight but getting nice shape and definition.But like everyone says on here diet and cardio are key, test just helps the process along.
Test is a must in every cycle. You need to do way more research and learn how to eat properly because with a question like that I'm sure you don't have a clue.
The question was based on the recent research that proved testosterone dosage resulted in drastic bodyfat loss. Its not me not having a clue. So you need to get reading my friend before you tell people they don't have a clue.
Food dictates everything. Gear is just an aspirin
If all things are equal A person on test that works outand diets will lose bf faster than if he wasn't on test.
THE best course of action for fatloss is STILL (and will always be) diet and cardio
I see posts like this and I always get the feeling someone is fishing for a shortcut LOL!
...and YES it is hightly recommended to get BF down before running test as to not agitate or induce certain health risks such as edema and high blood pressure
i wasnt really digging for shortcut.. just wanted to understand why the reason everyone suggests losing bodyfat before a trst cycle if test cycle make you lose fat. it was a little confusing. I have not done any cycles yet and wanted to learn.
I am 30 yrs old, 14% bf weight 83-84kg. I want to do my first cycle and just trying to figure out if i should still wait till i bring it down to about 10% or if 14 is an ok number.
I joined up cuz i wanted advice and wanted to learn more. Was even hoping i would find a metor who would help me.
Not saying YOU were but ppl try and find clever ways to extract info that they realize the board won't condone. Most ppl are generally lazy and seek shortcuts all the time, we see it here everyday
I know what you mean. I dont want shortcuts. I just need guidance. any advice and suggessions welcome.
answer is the same. test is an amazing compound and with the right diet and training you can reach most goals from "cut" to "bulk"... So start researching diet plans and high rep training routines that will fit your goals.
This probably isn't what your wanting to hear, but my guess is that your probably below novice. Some guys on here will lay out compplete programs for you but IMO you would benefit more from digging in and doing some research on your own and come back with a cycle idea, basic diet and training routine and let us help you fine tune it
My routine:
Day 1: shoulders/biceps/30 mins cardio
Day 2:cardio 30 mins (am) legs (pm)
Day 3: abs/cardio 1hr
Day 4: chest/triceps/cardio 30 mins
Day 5: back/rear delts/traps/ cardio 30 mins
Day 6&7 cardio 1 hr
Diet :
Meal 1: 6 egg whites, 3 whole eggs
Meal 2: 50g whey protein
Meal 3: 6 oz chicken breast 1 cup brown rice
Meal 4: 50g whey protein
Meal 5: fish or steak 8 oz with veg and 1 cup brown rice (post workout)
Meal 6: 1 scoop whey 1 scoop casein
Supplements:
Multi vitamin ( optimen)
Omega 3 6 9
Vitamin c
Vitamin d3
Aminos
Bcaa
This is my routine and diet. I probably am a novice or below novice as I've only been training properly for 3 yrs. I am not sure if there is anything I can change. If you have any suggestions please do tell me. Appreciate you takibg the time to reply.
Ok so here is the deal bro, for example a guy who weights 225 do a first time cycle of Test only and loses 20 pounds and looks leaner and bigger, another guys does the same cycle he stands at 175 pounds and gain 25 pounds overall during the cycle, you know what i mean? Diet dictates everything bro. As far as esters, enanthate cypionate give you some water retention, while Propionate give you the less water gain. Hope this helps you a bit brotha
56tooWhat u probably read about is the fact that as we age and test levels drop certain things begin to happen to our bodies, one being fat accumulation around the mid section.Yes I personally have seen the fat loss myself but Im in my 50s, your body starts to re-compose when test levels are brought back to youthful levels. However if you were to take test at cycle levels you could actually start to accumulate fat because of the estrogen build up if not controlled with serms or AIs.
Test cen be used as a cut cycle by just manipulating your carb intake. For instance to cut you cld cut your carbs down to 100 g day and stop any intake of carbs after say 2:00 pm. You want to cut some more? Cut your carb intake by 10:00 am. and thats how that works
X2 spot on IMO. Run your ass off and look at your diet to loose fat.
AnonTest is good for both gain and loss. Simply drop your calories for cut or up them for a bulk. Short esters are better for loss and long for bulk. Its not a good idea to use a cycle to loose fat before you do another cycle.
Oh no I didnt mean use a cycle to lose fat before I start another. Just wanted to know your experience of fat loss on a cycle.
AnonSory buddy may have picked you up wrong there. Test is very good at helping to cut. When on a test only cycle if you tweak your diet and cardio it is surprising how quickly you see results. Im on now and my weight rocketed, I lowered my calories and it fell in a matter of days. Ive got a nice balance now where im floating at the same weight but getting nice shape and definition.But like everyone says on here diet and cardio are key, test just helps the process along.
Test is a must in every cycle. You need to do way more research and learn how to eat properly because with a question like that I'm sure you don't have a clue.
The question was based on the recent research that proved testosterone dosage resulted in drastic bodyfat loss. Its not me not having a clue. So you need to get reading my friend before you tell people they don't have a clue.