posted Mon, 10/15/2012 - 07:57
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re-write of ruski's proposed second cycle
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re-write of a cycle i posted few weeks ago. that had var finisher.
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6'2"
bout 250 :(
little to high but..
week 01-12 test c 500mg w
week 01-06 tbol 50mg ed
week 01-02 test p 75mg ed
week 03-04 test p 50mg ed
week 11-14 test p 50mg ed
standard pct, ai, and hcg protocol.
main difference here is the var finisher switch for the tbol kicker. 2 main reasons for that. first, i lost some size from when i wrote the first one. so while still after lean quality gains, i wanted a tad bit more mass gain than the var would give me. second, the pumps from var made it very difficult to get quality cardo in last time.
i feel the 4 week prop taper will dry me up pretty well. input?
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zewilooks good IMO---keep the test p the same 1-4 stay 75mg EOD the whole time However, i think you should do at least 100mg EOD. The taper the same.
i pinning ed not eod. the reason i came up with the 75 first 2 weeks and 50 second 2 is because i feel it will keep my levels the most stable. this is a theory i worked out, so its probably totally wrong. now test e/c take 2 weeks 2 start working. than another 2 weeks to build up. so the first 2 weeks of proper will be higher case the cyp hasnt kicked in, and the second 2 will be lower cause the cyp is building in my system already.
zewiyeah my bad i saw eod in my head..lol your good brother.
zewiHowever i would stay with 75mg ED cause thats 525 mg a week. I would also front load the Test C.. 1-1 500mg monday 500mg thursday..
can you elaborate a little more on front load protcol for me brother?
zewiYes.. Front load the Test C.. meaning your first to shots are 500mg for the first week..
here you go read this...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/front-loading-and....
In most of my cycles i post.. I never mention Front loading. However, that is going to change after this post--I'm going to explain why front loading is important, and the benefits from it when using a longer easter.--this is usally figured out by someone doing research, and has been apart of my cycles for a long time now. So here is the research behind it, and why it is important in every cycle.---time for you all to take the next step--the research is right here..:)
What is front-loading?
Loading the compound in the first weeks to facilitate its access in the blood stream.
We all know that when we are going to run an injectable steroids cycle with long esters (test E, C, Deca, Bold, Primo) we should have to wait 3 to 6 weeks to get a the called "kick", meaning a full peak of the compound's activity, in order to reach the maximum anabolic state and keep it until the end of the cycle.
Needless to say that when we are in a high anabolic state, protein synthesis is raised, and this is the time to add some good calories to fully avail of the massive transport of amino-acids in the muscle cells.
It is not easy, Especially for a first timers, to have to wait for the chemicals to "kick in", so we're going to "kick start" our cycle through one of these three methods:
---Adding an oral in the first 4-5 weeks of cycle to get some gains even from the beginning days, mostly water gains for the majority of cases though.
---adding a shorter ester for the first 2-4 weeks,-- Test P to start with Test E .--Regardless of experience everyone uses a kicker.
---FRONT LOADING the long esterified compound in the first week doubleing the dose. This is in my opinion the most effective manner to get benefits yet from the first weeks of a long esterified steroid intake.
I'm gonna explain this more---
Main Long Esters Active-Life:
Enanthate : 8 days
Undecylenate : 7-9 days
Cypionate : 14-16 days
Decanoate : 15-17 days
Let's example a 14 days-active ester.
Since any esterified compound is expelled from the body after its active-life duration, we will assume a theoretic injection protocol of 1 shot per week (every 7 days, its half-activity, or half-life).
Standard injection protocol at 500mg/week for 4 weeks:
WEEK 1 : 500mg; substance left at the end of the current week: 250mg
WEEK 2 : 500mg + 250mg; substance left at the end of the current week: 375mg
WEEK 3 : 500mg + 375mg; substance left at the end of the current week: 437.5mg
WEEK 4 : 500mg + 437.5mg; substance left at the end of the current week: 468.75mg
This is to demonstrate that we won't never get those 500mg we're injecting every week all the time as the minimum amount of compound guaranteed in the blood.
So how do I make sure to have at least the amount of gear I'm injecting every week regularly circulating in the blood?
This is freaking simple, you just have to add 1 and nothing more than 1 more dosage of the substance in the first week. Just there.
This concept is easily intelligible following the example:
WEEK 1 : 1000mg (2x500mg); substance left at the end of the current week: 500mg
WEEK 2 : 500mg + 500mg; substance left at the end of the current week: 500mg
WEEK 3 : 500mg + 500mg; substance left at the end of the current week: 500mg
WEEK 4 : 500mg + 500mg; substance left at the end of the current week: 500mg
And so on...
With this protocol the compound is quickly active from the first week, just for having front loaded it with 1 more shot than the usual protocol, and this way the chemical levels are even more stable (=less sides) and higher in the blood.
By Front-loading and using a kick start--it is the fastest way to getting quick results from long esters--and to get your blood levels stable and to the highest point.--The faster this can happen the faster protein syntheses will occur and that great Kick you wait for from using long esters.
References:
Drugs Active-Lives: Chemical Muscle Enhancement by Author L. Rea
very nice. thank your brother.
He said 75ed bro ;)
zewihe did my bad..
Taper is light but looks good. Tbol and prop kicker....boom!
how would you dose the taper? im never apposed to more prop
I'd hit 100 eod for taper. Prop is completely dead in 48 hours. So at 100eod you level is 200 flat thru. You can half on week 14 if ya wish. I just think comin off 500 and dropping to 100flat(50eod) would be significant.
im pinning ed not eod.
My head up my butt....
you know me, after best results
Ed inject is the best....most even without fluctuation. Big high five!
Nice sensible cycle, would also taper off the prop eg 50ed then say 37.5 ed to finish. You can then start your pct 3 days after last prop pin. Ran something pretty similar mate, nice run.
Good luck with it fella.
tapering down to 37.5 sounds promising actually.
Looks awesome to me, a taper with a good pct should make the pct crash a lot easier too..