posted Mon, 09/17/2012 - 07:57
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Recent labs looks like some advise is in order
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OK ladies and gentlemen WTF? I am a little worried at these results. Your questions and comments are appreciated.
G
Stats:
46 yrs
trt
185 lbs
second cycle is finished 2 weeks into august so I stopped pinning at the beginning of august. 12 week Cycle consisted of:
250 test cyp 2x per wk
deca at 200 2x per wk.
100 mg tren eod for the first month
Anastrozole 1 mg mon, wed, fri.
hcg 250 sat, and sun
I recently lowered the adex at the beginning of September to 1 mg mon and 1mg fri. I am currently running for TRT
250 cyp 1 x per wk
200 deca 1x per wk
hcg 250 sat, and sun
Anastrozole 1 mg mon and 1 mg friday.
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Ok so 2 months latter my numbers are very slightly lower nothing that makes a Difference, going to give blood tomorrow. The question is do I start my next cycle? hema 57.8 and rbc 6.14
AnonDonate blood my friend
Yep did that and will continue to donate, I figure it can't hurt right? Thanks Badger
AnonI try to drop blood every 4-6 weeks.
Gave my first pint of blood today
Feels good to do something good for me and the community. Blood pressure was 110 over 80 pulse 78. I lowered my cruise to 187 mgs and will continue to pull it down to 150 mgs. Dropped the deca. I changed AI and will take more tests in a month or so.
Thank you to everyone who replied.
G
I would aggree with the other people here. Drop the test down to 200mg per week at the most, cease the deca, and you should be able to stop the HCG by this point as well. In addition, and I think someone mentioned this already, go give blood immediately.I naturally have elevated hem numbers, so I give blood almost as often as they let me. This is dangerous and should be dealt with ASAP.
You will have to fill out a questionaire before giving blood that will ask you if you have ever taken testosterone or injectable steriods. Answer no. If you do not they will disqualify you from giving blood and you will have to get a Dr's order to just have your blood taken. Modern day blood letting! I actually had an iron level that was too high once, and they wouldn't let me give. I got the Dr order the following week, but by the time I went back the level was within normal range.
Thank you for your reply def gonna give blood next week, drop the deca and reduce the test.
When you are running gear it is quite normal for your rbcs, hemocrit, and hemoglobin to be high .. that said, you need to do something to get them down. Please consider donating blood to start with. Also, hit up tread's sticky post on reducing high blood pressure as I m guessing that is elevated as well.
Your blood sugar is "high" however, did you fast properly prior to the blood test? grrr you drank before the blood tests??? DOH... lol.. shame on you
For your cruise, I am not going to fault the test levels although running them between 100mg and 200mg would be more consistent with a cruise. DROP the deca this is NOT cruising. Give your body a break and ease up.
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Take heed my friend on your posted Hemoglobin and Hemotocrit levels. They are at dangerous levels and at your age you definately want to address this. Your blood is thick and your heart is working overtime to pump it. You can also clot real easy and have that shit go to your heart. You are also at a much increased risk of stroke. Everything else on your bloodwork is secondary at this point.
If u think it was an anomaly from dehydration/drinking fine..but get another test to confirm this ASAP.
PS..Your TRT cycle sounds more like a heavy cruise cycle...That will certainly keep those blood levels high. I'm 43 and TRT for me is Test Cyp 250mg every 2 WEEKS.
Why the hell are u still using HCG????
Thank you for your comments. the HCG was actually suggested by my trt doc to keep the boys from shriveling up...
Supernova283If you're on TRT with 250mg cyp/week why are you complaining about high testosterone? 250mg of test a week is a little more than double higher end production of peaking males. Of course you're going to have high test. Having high test is going to cause high estrogen hemo and RBC.
I'd say when most people take .25mg of adex E3D and you take adex at 1mg 3 times per week and still have high estro that your adex is probably really underdosed or bunk.
Supernova283Oh also your Hematocrit is really really high. That's pretty dangerous. I'd hop on a aspirin to be safe for a while.
Glucose levels are pretty high too, might want to eat a bit cleaner. Less processed carbs or high GI carbs.
Thanks Super nova, not complaining about the high test just the other things I mentioned. I went out drinking the night before tests so that is probably the reason for the high glucose. I will def investigate the high hematoctrit. I am gonna change suppliers for my AI. What do you think after I start new AI what maybe a month for new tests?
Supernova283Yeah, since AIs only stop new estrogen from being created the old stuff will still be around for a while. So yeah you should wait a bit on the new tests.
And yeah if you were drinking the night before that was most likely the cause of the high glucose.
I read that the high hema could be dehydration? Drinking the night before and then probably did not drink enough water on friday anyway.
Supernova283Maybe. I'm not sure about the hema. I know test raises it, but I didn't know about the drinking.
You're at a much much higher risk of stroke and clot and such with the level of hema you posted, but if you read alcohol raises it I can't say I know much on the subject.
You're probably right in which case it's really nothing to worry about.
Sorry brother I should've been more specific. Dehydration causes it among many other things. Drinking dehydrates you and then not drinking enough during the day before I went drinking dehydrated me more. I am still going to take precautions e.g. aspirin as you suggested until i get to the bottom of this. thank you for your help
Supernova283Yeah no problem.
Whats the question? When were labs done?
labs were done on saturday 9/15. The rbc hemo and hema and the estrogen look high?
JohnnyBlackare you WTFing over how high your esto is? or the fact your test is still high. you on trt though right?
Yes the estro and the test are high and the rbc hemo and hema yes on trt.