+ 1 test Cyp.....dbol.....EQ
Im currently 5'11 235...24yrs old....dont know my bf % but sitting mildly lean...any input on PCT would be awesome....only my second well planned cycle....i think 12wk is pretty good considering im using EQ..nvr used it before but heard it takes about 5wks to start kicking....have both test Cyp and Test E. not sure which to use so input is welcomed...jumping it with dbol...just because my body responds to dbol the best...it literally turns me into a animal....first time running the test at 750mg/wk...seems good...coasting at 500mg...running Test and eq all the way through and leaning it out with the tren Ace....everday inject, too much?? EOD?? also Tren or Masteron or a blend?? tried all and Tren seemed to cause bad sides...gyno start but not sure if it was the tren or Sus...Masteron i would prefer just so expensive...any input is welcomed...wanna hit this cycle right....PCT advise also...235lbs now wanna end at around 255lbs....
| Week | Testosterone Cypionate | Dbol | Equipoise | Test P | arimidex | clomid | Novedex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 750mg | 50mg ed | 400mg | 100mg eod | .25 eod | ||
| 2 | 750mg | 50mg ed | 400mg | 100mg eod | .25 eod | ||
| 3 | 750mg | 50mg ed | 400mg | 100mg eod | .25eod | ||
| 4 | 750mg | 50mg ed | 400mg | 100mg eod | .25 eod | ||
| 5 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 6 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 7 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 8 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 9 | 750mg | 400mg | .25eod | ||||
| 10 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 11 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 12 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 13 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 14 | 750mg | 400mg | .25 eod | ||||
| 15 | 750mg | ||||||
| 16 | 750mg | ||||||
| 17 | 100 | 40 | |||||
| 100 | 40 | ||||||
| 50 | 20 | ||||||
| 50 | 20 |
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Ok...scrolled this and need to know goal...realistic goal. What is coasting 500test? Have you picked ai and pct?
zewiRAGE
Well fuck me.. I didnt even look at the whole cycle that you changed to cause that first one sucked so bad i was just happy to see a change.
Now i look closer and it still fucking sucks
You have TEST AND EQ ending at the same time.. Really how they fuck did you come up with this? I doubt you even have an AI.
Im going to loose it..
OK HERE---TEST NEEDS TO BE RAN 2 EXTRA WEEKS OR YOU WILL END UP WAITING TO LONG TO START PCT...
EITHER RUN EQ FOR 14 and TEST FOR 16 OR EQ 16 and TEST FOR 18
FUCK THAT GO DO RESEARCH RIGHT NOW.. YOUR A RE MESSING WITH COMPOUNDS YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE!!.
First off....test will end 2wks after the eq....that novice shit..i realize test must run longer...second i do have a AI or (Aromatase inhibitor)...just asking for input on which would be best...im not running this cycle next wk...more like 3 months from now...so in a way i am doing some of my reseach...dig in those cabinets and pop a xanax.
zewiIM ON TREN AND I RAGE....
IT JUST HARD FRO ME WHEN I SAW THAT FIRST CYCLE and then THIS CHANGE...
"First off....test will end 2wks after the eq....that novice shit.."
IF IT IS FIX THE CYCLE!!
HERE CAUSE I CARE HOW I DONT FUCKING NO!!!
1-16 TEST E @ 500mg (or 750)
1-14 EQ @ 400 (or 600)
and AI your choice. Arimidix or aromisin (adex .25mg EOD--ar 12.5mg)
Start PCT 15 days after last shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
If you want you can add test p weeks 1-4 @ 100mg eod..
thank you....ill make the changes.
Teach him Uncle Zewi! Horrible layout for second cycle. And gaining 20 lbs is easy...BUT gaining 20solid pounds is not.
thanks for the "useful" feedback....and yes...its understood anyone can gain 20lbs...i figured tht out awhile ago
Folks here will definitly poke when cycles are off. It's not about purposely pissin on ya. It's to get the poster to review, learn, and revise. Only reason i'm not aggro is i blasted hard in gym already. Lol! This morning...you woulda punched your screen.
StevebGaining on EQ is easier because it makes you want to eat all the time. I was able to eat non stop.
zewiOmg.. this cycle sucks!!
well fuck me you just updated.. I was about to so fucking rage...
Looks better..
O i was so ready...
Only run the D-bol 4 weeks 50mg ED
dbol 4wks...okay...and what PCT would u recommend.??
zewiDID YOU JUST ASK THAT QUESTION?
WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD RUN?
Arimidex throughout the cycle and clomid/novedex...4-5wks out of cycle
elaborate....sucks why...what would u change? What transformed you into a "god"?
StevebEQ 16 weeks and run it higher
16wks!! like 600mg?? I should run test along with it the entire time right?? keep the same Mg/wk of test?
StevebI did 600mg each with Anavar instead of dbol. If you want to kick start your cycle you don't always have to use dbol, try Test Prop.
yea thts what i used on my first actual planned out cycle..and i didnt really like the effects...imma stick with dbol...i dont bloat as bad as some ppl...i usually maintain lean gains...
StevebNo steroid I have used really gives me acne. But Dbol does so I avoid it, that's just me you might be different.
StevebEQ is a longer ester so it will stay active longer. Stop EQ before test.
wtf am i looking at?
a cycle? correct me if im wrong....and looking for positive feedback..not dumbass remarks
Its just laid out bad...he's simply trying to get ya to self eval this cycle...goals etc
yes it was my mistake...it was laid out bad...didnt realize the numbers i was punching in...but ive corrected it..and yes i am trying to just get a self eval and get feed back...real tiem feedback...from veteran users...not just 1 or 2 cycle guys
@stevb yea i used it about a yr ago...was gonna do a small town show and got a pre competition blend of tren,Masteron,prop.....10mL 125mg per....ran 3btls of it and fuckin love it...never have i been so shredded and vascular...
StevebEvery time I start to read about Tren its nothing but bad news.
yea thats what everyone is telling me...and when i used it i was on alot of compounds...kinda doing it stupid...i was running sus and anadrol...threw a few btls of tren Ace in....gyno started so i dropped it..but gd i felt that shit burning!!! always hott!!! but had to drop it cause of sides...also noticed hair coming out n the shower...freaked me out!!!
StevebTry Primo, Anavar, EQ. Lean mass and less sides. But Anavar and Primo should be used at high milligrams to get good results.
yes i understand research is key..and i do plenty of research...but i also understand how compounds act differently with everyone...ie...genetics, diet, routine, i do my research ask advice and trial and error....thank you for your advice man...and best of luck to you @swetterfish
Yea no disrespect I just read you stating that you wernt sure wich was causing the gyno Ive done two cycles in the past and since then Ive done alot of research and Im just going back to the basics for now fr me if you want bro.