posted Mon, 06/25/2012 - 08:48
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First TEST cycle what do i need? already running anavar at 60mg a day.
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im not looking to get MASSSIVE all at once with alot of sides, i have a wedding coming up and i do wona be a little discrete if you know what i mean. im thinking of running 250mg for 6-8 weeks i know i should do 12 which is standerd. oo ya and the the resion i chose to run test is becuase i can get it here in europe at the pharm for 10 bucks a cit which has 4 vials of 250mg..
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Anonlike the comment below me:
you shouldn't even need any PCT or even OCT at such low doses of test only (especially if enanthate).
you probably won't have to worry about getting "massive" either! lol! unless you're an extreme ectomorph right now you'll look only a little different by end of cycle.
you should run at least 10 weeks IMO.
try to couple with some deca 250 and run a 1/1 ratio.
i have to ask: be discreet about what? are you afraid people will think you're on steroids?
well, without getting into the debate on that let me share a story instead:
i started at 113lbs and 5'10". EXTREME ectomorph! first cycle was test e and deca at 1/1 ratio for 250mg/wk (1ml each). no PCT or OCT. went up to 151 lbs at the end of 10 weeks!
guess what? no one accused me or even hinted at me doing steroids! everyone chalked it up to eating right and working out PERIOD!
don't be afraid to blow up! only a few of the old time gym rats are gonna know what you're doing... and they'll either give you advice or keep their mouths shut and let you do your thing. chances are that at least 50% of the buff guys in your gym are on gear! don't sweat what people think!
point them at the documentary "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" if they wanna talk shit!
You didnt say exactly what your goals are but for a first cycle, 250 mg of test a week is fine for 8-12 weeks. You dont need the Anavar it wont give you a lot of bang for your buck and you absolutely do not need any kind of antiaromatase like Nolvadex or Arimadex at that dosage. Honestly, you shouldnt even need PCT on something like that, especially if you use a compound with a decent half life like cypionate or enanthate. Good luck at your wedding.
You will also need arimidex to help control estrogen. When you took anavar and winstrol those don't aromatize but test does.
silverback89im running the cycle threw the wedding for sure. is all ready planned out. will nolva work to??
Dont want to run nolva on cycle. As light as this cycle is you coul probably do fine with just clomid for pct. Two Weeks after last shot of test. Var Weeks 2-8. Arimidex is cheap security incase it bloats or causes estro problems. .25eod IF you have bloating/gyno. This cycle is uber light so should be easy for ya.
Doing test at 250/wk & var at 50/dy ?
silverback89cycle looks like 10 weeks anavar and 8 weeks test together, and you said somthing about 2 weeks after last shot of test ? i was gona use nolva for pct if thats cool.
that would suck having a wedding on pct...
if I were you I would stay on cycle through wedding. You will be an emotional wreck with no libido. you prob be better off waiting until after you get married bro stay off the steroids
silverback89im 22 6ft weigh 210 hangin on to a lil fat, iv ran 4 cycles before all orals winny and anavar.
do i need any meds during the cycle like nolva? hcg? blood presure meds..ect
and will i retain water and get bloat from it while running anavar?
Post your stats....cycle experience.
lucky.. you need a pct when you get off .. that's really all, with good nutrition of course