FRANKIE has pretty much sealed his fate by his absence. He isn't selling here any longer and since he has not made good on delivering what he owes, it is only right to re instate frankie as a scammer, who is continuing to sell prestige products via face book and alias ned kelly
NOW AS A SOURCE IM GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE INSIGHT..I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST GUYS,MAYBE THE FIRST,TO ORDER FROM FRANKIE.I WAS NOT A SOURCE.WHEN I OPENED MY STORE FRANKIE WAS VERY KNOWLEDGABLE AND HELPED ME GREATLY..WHEN I GOT TOTALLY OVERWHELMED AND WAS READY TO HANG IT UP FRANKIE GUIDED ME THROUGH IT AND ,ALTHOUGH IT ALL CAME OUT OF MY PERSONAL $(WE HAD SEVERAL PACKS SEIZED)WE GOT ALMOST ALL BACKORDERS OUT AND WILL HAVE ALL OF THEM OUT NEXT WEEK(GOD WILLING!)I NEVER DODGED ANYONE AND I NEVER EASED UP ON MY VOW TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT..FRANKIE IF YOU R THERE,TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE AND TALK TO THE GUYS...REMEMBER,COMMUNICATION IS KEY RIGHT NOW..GIVE THE BRO'S SOMETHING TO WORK WITH HERE!!
Agree times two! As far as whether or not gear is legit....many folks right here knew i was looking for no pip prop. 3 Weeks back i got a jug of his prop and took a taste test. Half cc gave me a boner.Now IF Frankie is a "crew" then again....anyone in any business knows that if you have partners you have problems. All the top 15 sources had issues keeping up with spring rush on this site and they were all resellers of known brands. No if you take a brewer with a bad website and partners....how does anyone think he'd keep up with demand. There's a few resellers on this site i chat with about eod.....and this biz is extreme. Its not like dime baggin at all. Problem i see is he finally got a proper Web page and shit fell apart. And everyone is out of a brewer that kicked ass.
FUNNY JUST THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED WITH ME!! MY NEW SITE KEEPS TRACK OF THINGS I CANT AND WE ARE STILL 100% SAME DAY SHIPPING AFTER 100'S OF ORDERS!!! NOW THAT I GOT MOST OF MY BACKORDERS OUT WE ARE DESTINED FOR GREATNESS! OK,MORE GREATNESS..IM GREAT ALREADY!! LOL
Exactly! Your old site had you pulling out your hair. Spring rush newbs were insane on your page ordering now and why isn't it here yesterday? You stepped up...whole new site and everyone served/being served. But think of all that bullshit had you also been a brewer. I don't think you coulda pulled up to where ya are now without shutting down. The brewing/selling is a huge task. With the new system you have....sure! It's Live and learn. This to me looks like someone got too far in backorders.
FUCKING EXCELLENT POINT..I DONT THINK I COULD HAVE DONE IT!! I WOULDVE PUT MY 380 IN MY MOUTH AND PULLED THE TRIGGER!! LOL...THATS WHAT I GOT BBL AND DIESEL FOR NOW!! LOL
If Frankie ever comes back and explains this, I would love to hear it. Question is, how would we even know if what he is saying is true?? I would have to see EVERYONE with back orders get theirs, and hear from those people that it was legit gear before anything I heard from him was believed. Im not going to hold my breath while I wait. Do you have any insight into what Viking has gathered thru his contacts? That this is not the first time frankie has done this, and that its a pattern? Because thats going to be hard to explain away with talk of too many PMs, and emails, and toothaches, and postal holidays, and queens holidays, and people ripping him off, and hospitalizations, etc.
I don't think that's what Viking said? I believe he said currently has people in the UK that sent money and didn't get anything, mirror image of here. I think these are the guys he said are looking for him. As far as the gear being legit, I don't think that's ever been a question.
My read on this was that it happened over there first, as far as the gear being legit I agree it was in the past, I should know I ran it and gave him props on it. Its a common occurrence for a source to have good gear in the beginning, and to ship only oil or very weak gear at the end, when he knows by the time anyone figures out its bunk he will be gone anyways.
See that's what I meant in the PM. People can say whatever they want with no proof at all. I remember only 1 person ever saying anything negative about the gear, beginning, middle or end.
I think Frankie has had some serious problems ... IMO he has not done this on purpose. Perhaps he will return, who knows...???? What I can say is that he was honest with me
After all that has happened, and all the money that people had lost and not receiving their orders as promised repeatedly, for weeks and months and finally, Frankie is now declared a scammer! I'd lost a large chunk of change, but I'm actually relieved in a way because I no longer have listen to all the lies and false promises; 'your package will be sent out in 5 days.., you should have have gotten it, bro..., here's your trackers.., I was in hospital..... Frankie out smarted me and a whole lot of people, and now he's disappeared. We get scammed, I get it. What I don't get is for some assholes, cock suckers who are still defending this guy, and blaming the very people Frankie had scammed and taken their hard earned money. Fuck off!! Cheers.
After spending an hour at the mall getting a full body massage (no happy ending), I'm feeling totally relaxed now. I want to personally extend my apologies to you, Pat, for all the name calling and for my childish behavior. I do hope that you and your nephew get your order resolved.
As for Frankie, it's not important whether or not he's a scammer to me anymore. I've lost on an investment, nothing more. Wish you well.
You guys are in the same damn boat, instead of fighting each other you should be helping each other. I am not trying to sound like a dick, but gorillafit, your interests are more in line with big smittys than frankies...
I'm no asshole, or cocksucker, and not defending shit just giving my opinion. If you have a problem with that, GO FUCK YOURSELF! You knew the risk, you took it, you lost, learn from it. If I was being chased by some Bad Boys from the UK, sending out your order would be a distant memory. You little shits see only your side of anything. I'd expect a lil more from someone your age. And I still say if motherfuckers would not have stressed him so fucking much we would all be served right now! Until I hear otherwise that will remain my opinion.
There was not a person on here that if they were watching didn't know the risk, but you took it because his gear is good and cheap. Now some shit happened and he's a scammer? Its all Black and White. Everybody should check their deposits, they might not even have been collected mine wasn't for 3 weeks. Yeah, I guess he was a bad scammer too?
On the flip side (and I'm partly with you on give him some more time before letting all guns blaze on him) yourself and others give suppliers the impression that all is good for customers to wait 2-3 months for their order when we all know it is clearly not. All established suppliers wouldn't make you wait that long without a supplier issue themselves.
Leading me on to my next point, that had Frankie established himself as a domestic supplier first, then moved to international the transition would of been a lot less overwhelming. But everybody wanted his gear and dollar signs flashed before his eyes and the shit hit the fan. This is proven in the majority of pissed people being international orders.
From what I've gathered about Frankie he's just a normal guy who gave it go at making some "easy" money that turned out to be "hard" earned money. I think he had some knowledge of brewing but from what I've read around and about I don't think he was brewing his on gear at all.
Acetat or enanthat? I got his enanthat 200
phil113kgSorry that I didn't mention it, ace
DOUBLE G 67NOW AS A SOURCE IM GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE INSIGHT..I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST GUYS,MAYBE THE FIRST,TO ORDER FROM FRANKIE.I WAS NOT A SOURCE.WHEN I OPENED MY STORE FRANKIE WAS VERY KNOWLEDGABLE AND HELPED ME GREATLY..WHEN I GOT TOTALLY OVERWHELMED AND WAS READY TO HANG IT UP FRANKIE GUIDED ME THROUGH IT AND ,ALTHOUGH IT ALL CAME OUT OF MY PERSONAL $(WE HAD SEVERAL PACKS SEIZED)WE GOT ALMOST ALL BACKORDERS OUT AND WILL HAVE ALL OF THEM OUT NEXT WEEK(GOD WILLING!)I NEVER DODGED ANYONE AND I NEVER EASED UP ON MY VOW TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT..FRANKIE IF YOU R THERE,TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE AND TALK TO THE GUYS...REMEMBER,COMMUNICATION IS KEY RIGHT NOW..GIVE THE BRO'S SOMETHING TO WORK WITH HERE!!
Agree times two! As far as whether or not gear is legit....many folks right here knew i was looking for no pip prop. 3 Weeks back i got a jug of his prop and took a taste test. Half cc gave me a boner.Now IF Frankie is a "crew" then again....anyone in any business knows that if you have partners you have problems. All the top 15 sources had issues keeping up with spring rush on this site and they were all resellers of known brands. No if you take a brewer with a bad website and partners....how does anyone think he'd keep up with demand. There's a few resellers on this site i chat with about eod.....and this biz is extreme. Its not like dime baggin at all. Problem i see is he finally got a proper Web page and shit fell apart. And everyone is out of a brewer that kicked ass.
DOUBLE G 67FUNNY JUST THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED WITH ME!! MY NEW SITE KEEPS TRACK OF THINGS I CANT AND WE ARE STILL 100% SAME DAY SHIPPING AFTER 100'S OF ORDERS!!! NOW THAT I GOT MOST OF MY BACKORDERS OUT WE ARE DESTINED FOR GREATNESS! OK,MORE GREATNESS..IM GREAT ALREADY!! LOL
Exactly! Your old site had you pulling out your hair. Spring rush newbs were insane on your page ordering now and why isn't it here yesterday? You stepped up...whole new site and everyone served/being served. But think of all that bullshit had you also been a brewer. I don't think you coulda pulled up to where ya are now without shutting down. The brewing/selling is a huge task. With the new system you have....sure! It's Live and learn. This to me looks like someone got too far in backorders.
DOUBLE G 67FUCKING EXCELLENT POINT..I DONT THINK I COULD HAVE DONE IT!! I WOULDVE PUT MY 380 IN MY MOUTH AND PULLED THE TRIGGER!! LOL...THATS WHAT I GOT BBL AND DIESEL FOR NOW!! LOL
Bingo! And BC....Superman....Endurexx........
DOUBLE G 67HELLS YEAH BIG DAWG!!!!!! LOVE YOUR ASS!!(LITTLE HOMO)
AnonIf Frankie ever comes back and explains this, I would love to hear it. Question is, how would we even know if what he is saying is true?? I would have to see EVERYONE with back orders get theirs, and hear from those people that it was legit gear before anything I heard from him was believed. Im not going to hold my breath while I wait. Do you have any insight into what Viking has gathered thru his contacts? That this is not the first time frankie has done this, and that its a pattern? Because thats going to be hard to explain away with talk of too many PMs, and emails, and toothaches, and postal holidays, and queens holidays, and people ripping him off, and hospitalizations, etc.
I don't think that's what Viking said? I believe he said currently has people in the UK that sent money and didn't get anything, mirror image of here. I think these are the guys he said are looking for him. As far as the gear being legit, I don't think that's ever been a question.
juiceinatorI would doubt anyone's actually gonna look for him.. I mean.. No one looked for NG.
AnonMy read on this was that it happened over there first, as far as the gear being legit I agree it was in the past, I should know I ran it and gave him props on it. Its a common occurrence for a source to have good gear in the beginning, and to ship only oil or very weak gear at the end, when he knows by the time anyone figures out its bunk he will be gone anyways.
See that's what I meant in the PM. People can say whatever they want with no proof at all. I remember only 1 person ever saying anything negative about the gear, beginning, middle or end.
I think Frankie has had some serious problems ... IMO he has not done this on purpose. Perhaps he will return, who knows...???? What I can say is that he was honest with me
After all that has happened, and all the money that people had lost and not receiving their orders as promised repeatedly, for weeks and months and finally, Frankie is now declared a scammer! I'd lost a large chunk of change, but I'm actually relieved in a way because I no longer have listen to all the lies and false promises; 'your package will be sent out in 5 days.., you should have have gotten it, bro..., here's your trackers.., I was in hospital..... Frankie out smarted me and a whole lot of people, and now he's disappeared. We get scammed, I get it. What I don't get is for some assholes, cock suckers who are still defending this guy, and blaming the very people Frankie had scammed and taken their hard earned money. Fuck off!! Cheers.
AnonThere are five stages of grief....some people get thru denial faster than others do. Its a process:-)
Very good point. We have a lot of perfect examples here.
Hrdbdygrrrl did say stop right?
After spending an hour at the mall getting a full body massage (no happy ending), I'm feeling totally relaxed now. I want to personally extend my apologies to you, Pat, for all the name calling and for my childish behavior. I do hope that you and your nephew get your order resolved.
As for Frankie, it's not important whether or not he's a scammer to me anymore. I've lost on an investment, nothing more. Wish you well.
Takes a big man Bro.... Apologies all around! Shit gets accelerated quick when you got money on the line I know. Sorry!
AnonGROUP HUG EVERYONE .. AND KISSES TOO
Does that work with the inmates too? LOL ;-P
AnonIt has you smiling .. doesn't it?
Anonsent you a FR
Message sent
AnonYou guys are in the same damn boat, instead of fighting each other you should be helping each other. I am not trying to sound like a dick, but gorillafit, your interests are more in line with big smittys than frankies...
Agree.
I'm no asshole, or cocksucker, and not defending shit just giving my opinion. If you have a problem with that, GO FUCK YOURSELF! You knew the risk, you took it, you lost, learn from it. If I was being chased by some Bad Boys from the UK, sending out your order would be a distant memory. You little shits see only your side of anything. I'd expect a lil more from someone your age. And I still say if motherfuckers would not have stressed him so fucking much we would all be served right now! Until I hear otherwise that will remain my opinion.
There was not a person on here that if they were watching didn't know the risk, but you took it because his gear is good and cheap. Now some shit happened and he's a scammer? Its all Black and White. Everybody should check their deposits, they might not even have been collected mine wasn't for 3 weeks. Yeah, I guess he was a bad scammer too?
On the flip side (and I'm partly with you on give him some more time before letting all guns blaze on him) yourself and others give suppliers the impression that all is good for customers to wait 2-3 months for their order when we all know it is clearly not. All established suppliers wouldn't make you wait that long without a supplier issue themselves.
Leading me on to my next point, that had Frankie established himself as a domestic supplier first, then moved to international the transition would of been a lot less overwhelming. But everybody wanted his gear and dollar signs flashed before his eyes and the shit hit the fan. This is proven in the majority of pissed people being international orders.
From what I've gathered about Frankie he's just a normal guy who gave it go at making some "easy" money that turned out to be "hard" earned money. I think he had some knowledge of brewing but from what I've read around and about I don't think he was brewing his on gear at all.