Bulk/cutter
Ive been running test only cycles for a little while and now its time to get into some new compounds, maybe 9th or 10th cycle not sure. Im TRT so no PCT. Ive got several other combinations I would like to run but this is my first time with Eq so not gonna add any others that I havent ran yet!
I might run T-bol for first 3 weeks just cause I got some and its getting old.
Test-c 1-12 750mg/w
Eq 1-20 600mg/w (the only one I havent ran yet!)
Npp 4-12 400mg/w
Test-c 13-20 200mg/w
tren-a 13-20 245mg/w (if I can get up to 50mg/d with out crazy sides I will)
Mast-p 13-20 500mg/w
adex 1mg E3D 1-14 (im estro gyno prone)
Caber .5 E3D 4-20
I can see that my first couple weeks of tren I will still have a high content of test in my system, so moving up from 35mg/d to possibly 50mg/d wont happen till week 15. Thanks for any feedback.
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I would run the t-bol for 6 weeks at 60mg/day. T-bol is slow acting compound so you really don't start seeing results for about three weeks. Other than that everything looks good.
testaholicNiiice. I'm overrated in this because I'm about 10 days into a similar cycle accept no tbol or npp. I've also never ran eq before so I'm excited to give her a go.
EQ gives me real bad Anxiety, that's the only side I got @600 mg wkly but I will run it again though !
I like it!I would personally run the test c at 400 mg weeks 13-20.Or drop the test c and switch to prop since your running short esters anyway toward the end.Props a better cutter less water retention.Would be easy to mix the short esters in the same pin.
thats a good idea! thanks for the input...my reasoning for running test-c threw out is that I could keep low dose and try to advoid tren sides, I get them at 50mg/d with high test. And to be honest im intrigued at running Eq, Mast, and tren all together at higher doses then test. I think if I dont like it that way ill just drop the c and add prop.
thanks but im not running the NPP into the cutter, and I havent used winny before. one compound at a time, and I got a shitload of mast! I could drop the Eq down to 400mg/w.
dbolzYou will love eq its a hell of a compound, not sure if its wise to run it with tren due to the high rbc but i am sure you will get very nice lean gains and insane vascularity from that stack. I would also stretch the tbol to 4-6 weeks, 3 weeks you wont see much off it if anything. Also you might not even need the AI from the moment you add masteron. I get far less bloat/estrogenic sides when using eq and masteron at that dose will work as a weak AI. I would half the adex dose about a week after you add mast. Dont hold back in your eating after week 3 you will want to eat like a horse so eat everything in sight, once the eq kicks you will lean out nicely. By week 11 you will be stunned from the lean results. Good luck bro i am sure its going to be one awesome cycle.
Ive only got 3 weeks worth of T-bol, and well to be honest I dont like orals so I probably wont run it!
dbolzBest dont run it at all then mate, also i would add hcg in there just for libido and well being purposes. 250-400IU E3d will have you humping like a bunny for the whole cycle
sgtstedankoShit, brother! You just gave me an idea. Thanks. I can't believe I never thought of that : ) I'm gonna add var & a dollop of prop into the mix & have a quality simple cycle. boom!
Benchanitorbro im not someone thats very expierenced in roids, but i have good common sence. muscle is very hard to acquire, why go in a calorie deficit and risk that hard earned muscle during your first 9-12 weeks? it will take awhile for ur body to get adjusted to the new muscle gains and going straight into diet mode you will most likely lose that muscle if you are anywhere near big. if your a skinny kid you can easily accomplish that which i know your not:) in my opinion do a lean bulk, perhaps a 10 week tesp/npp/tbol wont put on any fat eithier with that bro and its short recovery will be a joke. then keep eating clean off cycle and by the time next cycle rolls around run test p/tren a/mast p. sounds good eh? :))))
well I want to run the Eq that I got and really dont want to stay on lean mass the hole time, I did this once before but with a much shorter cycle and I liked it alot. Also just because I switch over to cutting compounds doesnt mean I got to go on a reduced calorie diet, just means I drop my calorie intake from roughly 4500 to 3500 a day and add cardio.
Why soo complex? The first part looks cool. The end is complicated.
seems pretty simple to me! im bulking for 4-12 and cutting from 13-20
I saw the change to cutter. Was trying to learn. Haven't run a complex cycle like this.
alot of times people will try to do this in a 12 week cycle, the first 8 weeks bulk and the last 4 cut or something to that nature. Im running Eq so I thought well why not just do a nice extended version of this. I just sat down and looked at my box of goodies and said self, how does this sound! It doesnt seem complicated to me cause I think about cycles all day everyday!
sgtstedankoLooks more involved than I'd run. If it were me, personally. I'd add the tbol; drop either the mast &/or tren, & run a separate cutter, next... EQ makes me eat EVERYTHING in site, & I find tbe only way for me is to shop daily for my food. Otherwise I just can't stop eating : ( seriously
Well shit! I thought this was nice and easy! You should listen to some of the advanced cycles I think about!
sgtstedankoNo, it looks good, definitely do able. It's not that It's overly complicated, just more than I like, personally... My next cycles up, somewhere. That's about as complicated as I get. I try to stick to a couple compounds, or so. & kick off & end w/oral (no Gimp:) I honestly would buy another 3 weeks of tbol, & drop the tren, if it were me... Is be happy to listen. I dream about cycles & pussy. Or, getting shot :/