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I am not a veteran by any means so I like to keep things simple. I am planning on doing a summer cycle with some gear I have left over from last summer and winter.
I have for some reason almost 8 months after a successful PCT rebounded and acquired a small case Estro Gyno. Its not bad but sore and annoying to me, the only person who notices it. My plan is this:
Wk
1-16 Letro (First 2-6 weeks I anticipate being at 2.50 or less to reduce gyno)
1-4 D-bol 40 mg a day (I may wait 2 weeks to see how letro does)
5-16 Winni Tabs 50 mg/day
5-16 Deca 200 mg every 5 days
I am thinking of keeping the Letro at a reduced dose of .25-.5 instead of a SERM like Nolvadex or I may use .5 Arimidex which I also have. I have typically done well in the past on similar cycles achieving 210 lbs with using the Deca and Dbol for my bulk and Deca and Winni for cutting leaving me at 195 8% bf. Tried Tren and Winni for a cutting phase but was either extremely under dosing the Tren at like 75 mg every other day or it was bogus stuff. Never have used an AI like Letro or Adex. Primary goal in using the Dbol is to gain strength back after some time off for personal reasons and not get huge or bloated for the summer; which as I understand it, Letro will help combat along with clean diet. Blood panels are fine. Will finish with standard 12 week PCT of HCG, Nolv or Adex and clomid. Also considering Front Loading the Deca but am still researching receptor uptake saturation as a theory against it. After PCT will take a bulking cycle a little more seriously now that I have several new sources depending on blood work. Bulking cycle over the winter may be to close to this cycle so I may bridge instead depending on how my body feels, I'd like to give my body a break and come back to a homeostatic state before another cycle. I can drop weight like a stone easily by increasing cardio to 3 times a week. Is this a reasonable, conservative or heavy stack?
Stats:
37
5'8
180-185
10-12%
Thanks in advance!
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sgtstedankoOK, I found you... Sorry it took me a while. I had to track this gem down... This really is a bad cycle, brother. You say, you don't care what the others say, just me. Good, I like you more now. Now listen... But I will NOT tell you what you want to hear. There is only one base for a cycle. The base is always, ALWAYS TESTOSTERONE! Everything else is just an offshoot of it. I don't know what you're scared of in test, but imho, if you can't accomplish your goals ANY GOALS w/just testosterone of some form, you have no business cycling gear. Please Listen... Where I was in 1994, their were Guys that used to cycle Deca only @ like 500mg per week i think, w/decent results. But these are the same dudes that forgot to inform me of aspirating, etc, etc, etc. & since I've come on board here, & started to really research. I've learned so much. Much of what I thought I knew, has changed completely... Deca will shut you down hard. That means your body is no longer producing natty Testosterone... Yet the (Deca) that you are replacing the test with, does not fulfil ANY of functions that testosterone is responsible for on a daily basis. Deca has negative effects on your cardiovascular system, endothelial cell function, blood pressure, aldosterone system and severely fucks w/your hormonal balance! (not sure how to spell most all of that) It shuts you down harder than anything except tren, of course. My .02 is this. If you used Some form of test ONLY TEST, with aro, and maybe finasteride (for DHT) w/letro on hand (just in case) you will have pretty much a side effect free cycle. That is much healthier, & produces better results. Test is cheaper, more effective, & the safest steroid you can run at high doses for extended periods of time w/out probs.
Like i said, guys used to do this. Doesn't mean it's a good idea. If you get get 50 dudes telling you the same thing (that this is a bad idea) follow their advice. OR buy some fucking Viagra, because brother, you're def gonna be needing it sooner or later. So, do a little more research, my man. Figure it out for yourself. Through your pm's. You are most def already sold on this bs deca only idea : (
Bad Cycle start over
There is NO test mentioned anywhere in this plan!
You need test to be the base of every cycle bro or you are on the road to hell,sounds like you have run 19nors in the past without any test base also,you need to research and read the boards bro before you even contemplate cycling again,this is not the place for me to educate you.. you must do the basics by yourself then come back with a revised plan with TEST as the base.
sgtstedankoNo! No! No! Dude, if you're that worried about it, don't cycle. Or go primo... Research. & feel free to pm me.
Thats a bad cycle all the way around. Read forums and do a beginnet cycle with a good AI and pct program. What im seeing will be dekka Dick and problems.
yup..he obviously dont know what deca can to you if you dont run it with test
Get all buffed out stud style......and wont make anyone happy. Ouch. He needs to save funds and run it right