5 days into this... libido is up, been pinning prop monday, wed, friday, enanthate monday and friday... been thinking about injectin enanthat monday and thursdays... any advice?
I put a friend on his first cycle ever recently... nothing wrong with test E on M/Th. Or tues/Fri.... etc.
I'm confused about those lifts I must say... did you just start training in the last 1-2 years? Not trying to hate it just seems like for a guy that weighs 258... there is A LOT, I mean a fuckload, of gains to be made naturally before gear. Again not trying to start shit just speaking from a little experience as I went slightly higher on all those lifts @ 192 pounds when I was 19 with relatively high BF in the 14-15% range..... natural... and I still wasn't the strongest pound for pound natty kid around at all. I did it with 5000 clean cals a day instead of test. I guess I'm confused on why you're throwing in test so soon :/ but to each their own I suppose.....
At least you're doing it right with test only, and you're definitely old enough to be doing it safely. Just make sure your diet is in check that is farrrrr more important than the test for gains.... I guess that's why I have a problem with getting into gear early on in the lifting game, it can make people not realize just how important diet is.... It's like skipping the most important part of the learning process that is bodybuilding ( or powerlifting ). A phrase I picked up here goes something along the lines of bodies are made in the kitchen not the gym - that's just how it is! Sure I'm on gear right now but I strongly doubt I'd be adding 10 lbs to my bench every week ( literally - it's a little scary ) if I wasn't eating the way I do. I'm doing a little more than just test though
Don't let other people push you into shit either... depending on how aggressive your coach/training partners are they could be wanting you to run some crazy stack just a short while after PCT from this go around it's a slippery slope. Make your own choices brotha don't listen to others when it comes to gear - unless it's a pro/guru from this site they REALLY watch out for the safety of others here.
26, 27 in august, and i never did put "usually" but like i was afraid of... this is gonna turn in to some grilling session. I understand that gear is readily available... and my name pertains to powerlifting gear.. a gearwhore is someone who is like a junk collector but with powerlifting gear. and i pinned 100mg of prop today and 250mg enanthate. i will cut out the prop and i have clomid on hand also, so that wont be a problem. once again, advice is accepted but i dont want this hijacked with **** talking. I think we know what assuming does. ASS-u-ME
Don't sweat it bro they just busting your balls:-) It's a rite of passage around here. Your good with the changes you said you're going to make. Like I was saying really try and listen to what your body tells you. Get to know the feeling of the spike in test. Don't get overconfident and start going for PR's every session. You want to grow into this thing GW. You can still have amazing gains with a slow approach the first couple cycles.
I could've swore I read that, brother. I won't answer, just on principal. Don't assume anything, the fact that you have already tells me all I need to know. Have fun. & good luck
Only thing I want to say is your PCT is a bit weak. You should add some
Clomid 100/100/50/50. First cycle I would leave the Prop alone. Just get used to pinning and then you bring in the prop. Take it slow brother, use the first 4-5 wks to let your body get used to having Exogenous Test in the mix. Really pay close attention to all the small changes your body goes through the first few weeks. I would also keep my focus on keeping your technique smooth. Test would possibly make you too strong too fast and since this is your first go round you could get hurt.
thanks for the honesty, by no means am i gonna add anavar in, i was thinking about it but like i have read on here time and time again... i should find out how my body acts with the test in it. I can always save the var for next run. just one of those that really sticks out to me since my sports not necessarily about weight gain.
You can find out how your body reacts on test by week 6-7 nothing really stops you on adding var the last few weeks 7-14 till when you start pct. Afaik var is an awesome tool for powerlifting. Your bf % has a lot to do with what advise you are going to get. More bf = more aromataze and a higher dose of AI. I understand you dont care about the bf but everyone cares about gyno. Good luck with your cycle.
Any chance you could post your age bro? How can it be your first cycle and then you usually kickstart with prop? A bit confused there? Critisism is part of the game
He never said he usually kick starts with prop. Id say it looks good for a 1st cycle but you don't need to vars yet but most likely you going to take them and you made a good choice rather then picking dbol like most do but I do have 1 criticism, you can't be a gearwhore and this be your 1st cycle lol just saying
gearwhore5 days into this... libido is up, been pinning prop monday, wed, friday, enanthate monday and friday... been thinking about injectin enanthat monday and thursdays... any advice?
AnonI put a friend on his first cycle ever recently... nothing wrong with test E on M/Th. Or tues/Fri.... etc.
I'm confused about those lifts I must say... did you just start training in the last 1-2 years? Not trying to hate it just seems like for a guy that weighs 258... there is A LOT, I mean a fuckload, of gains to be made naturally before gear. Again not trying to start shit just speaking from a little experience as I went slightly higher on all those lifts @ 192 pounds when I was 19 with relatively high BF in the 14-15% range..... natural... and I still wasn't the strongest pound for pound natty kid around at all. I did it with 5000 clean cals a day instead of test. I guess I'm confused on why you're throwing in test so soon :/ but to each their own I suppose.....
gearwhorewell i was bantering with myself back and forth, with advice from my coach, and fellow lifters i chose to go for it.
AnonAt least you're doing it right with test only, and you're definitely old enough to be doing it safely. Just make sure your diet is in check that is farrrrr more important than the test for gains.... I guess that's why I have a problem with getting into gear early on in the lifting game, it can make people not realize just how important diet is.... It's like skipping the most important part of the learning process that is bodybuilding ( or powerlifting ). A phrase I picked up here goes something along the lines of bodies are made in the kitchen not the gym - that's just how it is! Sure I'm on gear right now but I strongly doubt I'd be adding 10 lbs to my bench every week ( literally - it's a little scary ) if I wasn't eating the way I do. I'm doing a little more than just test though
Don't let other people push you into shit either... depending on how aggressive your coach/training partners are they could be wanting you to run some crazy stack just a short while after PCT from this go around it's a slippery slope. Make your own choices brotha don't listen to others when it comes to gear - unless it's a pro/guru from this site they REALLY watch out for the safety of others here.
gearwhoreguess 500mg/ week of test for 12 weeks is the way to start...
AnonAlso worth mentioning I began training at 14 and got very serious with diet, weighing all my food counting calories etc. at 17. I got into it early.
gearwhore26, 27 in august, and i never did put "usually" but like i was afraid of... this is gonna turn in to some grilling session. I understand that gear is readily available... and my name pertains to powerlifting gear.. a gearwhore is someone who is like a junk collector but with powerlifting gear. and i pinned 100mg of prop today and 250mg enanthate. i will cut out the prop and i have clomid on hand also, so that wont be a problem. once again, advice is accepted but i dont want this hijacked with **** talking. I think we know what assuming does. ASS-u-ME
HardLuck13Don't sweat it bro they just busting your balls:-) It's a rite of passage around here. Your good with the changes you said you're going to make. Like I was saying really try and listen to what your body tells you. Get to know the feeling of the spike in test. Don't get overconfident and start going for PR's every session. You want to grow into this thing GW. You can still have amazing gains with a slow approach the first couple cycles.
gearwhorealright, truly appreciate the help!
HardLuck13Anytime GW! Holler at me if you ever need anything:-) FR sent
sgtstedankoI could've swore I read that, brother. I won't answer, just on principal. Don't assume anything, the fact that you have already tells me all I need to know. Have fun. & good luck
HardLuck13Only thing I want to say is your PCT is a bit weak. You should add some
Clomid 100/100/50/50. First cycle I would leave the Prop alone. Just get used to pinning and then you bring in the prop. Take it slow brother, use the first 4-5 wks to let your body get used to having Exogenous Test in the mix. Really pay close attention to all the small changes your body goes through the first few weeks. I would also keep my focus on keeping your technique smooth. Test would possibly make you too strong too fast and since this is your first go round you could get hurt.
gearwhorethanks for the honesty, by no means am i gonna add anavar in, i was thinking about it but like i have read on here time and time again... i should find out how my body acts with the test in it. I can always save the var for next run. just one of those that really sticks out to me since my sports not necessarily about weight gain.
dbolzYou can find out how your body reacts on test by week 6-7 nothing really stops you on adding var the last few weeks 7-14 till when you start pct. Afaik var is an awesome tool for powerlifting. Your bf % has a lot to do with what advise you are going to get. More bf = more aromataze and a higher dose of AI. I understand you dont care about the bf but everyone cares about gyno. Good luck with your cycle.
gearwhoremy comment may have come across wrong, i was meaning that bodyfat isnt a large part of the sport.
dbolzAny chance you could post your age bro? How can it be your first cycle and then you usually kickstart with prop? A bit confused there? Critisism is part of the game
He never said he usually kick starts with prop. Id say it looks good for a 1st cycle but you don't need to vars yet but most likely you going to take them and you made a good choice rather then picking dbol like most do but I do have 1 criticism, you can't be a gearwhore and this be your 1st cycle lol just saying
dbolzIm sure i read usually bro else i wouldn't ask
I read that to must gave been edited or something
sgtstedankoYup, me as well guys. Nobody's going crazy...
dbolzGlad i am not the only one though i am going crazy for a while. Hope he is not one of the young ones
Lmao yeah that kinda stuff happens
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