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Next cycle help!!

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Finishing up this cycle, and building my next one. I will be running this into my first physique show. I am currently cutting so hopefully I wont have to lean out much more.

Dbol 30-40mg 1-5(is there a better kick start choice that is like dbol but without the bloat?)
Test e 500mg 1-14
Tren e 400mg 1-10
eq 600mg 1-14(is eq worth it?)
winstrol 40mg 10-15

Would this be a good pre show cycle? I dont wanna be too lean as its a physique show, but still need to be around 7-8%bf.

Stats
6'0
217 12%bf
24yo

Cycle history
dbol 50mg 1-5
test e @ 500mg 1-10, 750 11-15

so this would be by second cycle

portman1's picture

What would you guys say to..

Test prop 50mg Ed or 100mg eod 12 weeks
Npp 100mg eod 10-11 weeks

Does that sound better?

And what's the vote between Ed and eod?

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Just seen his pic guy looks ok for what hes up to,imo just more intensity in the gym and keep nailing the diet, no need for roids at this stage if you dont want heavy mass.

portman1's picture

The show is still up in the Air. I really want to get bigger, but want to comPete but know Im nowhere
Close for a bb show. What would you recommend if I wasnt gonna do physique and just wanted to put on
A good amount of lean muscle? Dbol bloated me to hell even with Asin Ed. Test e is alrigh.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Test E brother 500mg pr wk split 250x2 shots this combined with the diet will give desired results,dont forget to have nolva on hand during cycle then after 12wks of test use start PCT protocol 2wks later then run that for 4wks ok,i wont go into a pct cycle here we have loads posted and this can be the first stage of your homework,better not to be spoon fed you will get more buzz and believe in the knowledge if you do this yourself,TIP plan your cycle backwards meaning plan and order all pct items pins sterile wipes before you go rushing for the test,

FAILURE TO PLAN IS A PLAN TO FAIL also EVERY ACTION CREATES A REACTION so do your planning very very well ok.

portman1's picture

Test e wasn't all that great imo. Sure it was fun, but just wasn't nearly as good as I expected.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Then give cyp or my favourite test hep a run ???? stacked with EQ with a 4wk prop kicker instead of d/bol.

This will need a cycle length of approx 12/14wks.

portman1's picture

So since you guys said I shouldn't run tren yet, would I be better off going with say NPP? or, what would you guys recommend? I don't have the orals yet, so they aren't a must.

portman1's picture

thanks for the very in depth response.Here is a pic of me this morning.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd190/Portman1234/5-2-121.jpg

My diet has consisted of 7 meals, carbs only at breakfast and post workout. Oats in the am, and banana post workout. Other than that, I've relied on boiled chicken, lean beef, eggs, liquid egg whites, and some powders.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Sheeet youre running hot today brother,careful you dont wear out that key pad LMaooo.

P's picture

An alternate to dbol is tbol (Turinabol) - less water retention. However, if you have access to prop then definitely use that to taper

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

No tren, No d/bol, use a prop kicker with the test and EQ you have posted,i would use anavar to finish but if you have the winny go with that for the last 4 weeks, you need to drop carbs to no more than 100 grams pr day all taken in the AM only protein after that,you will see results from this if you are srtict with the diet.

Hope you have PCT planned bro ?????the winny will shut you down real hard.

jkc's picture

Once you finish the cycle you are on, run proper PCT, you give yourself time to evaluate your first cycle. Check your diet, training. Then plan your next cycle in proper time to what your goals are for that competition your going to. Dont rush into anything. Read up on these compounds more. I personally would not run the Tren 2nd cycle, but thats just me.

portman1's picture

I've done one test e cycle. Kick-started it with 50mg dbol ed for 5 weeks.Weeks 1-10 were 500mg, 11-15 were 750mg. Went from 205-233lbs. Currently cutting and am 216lbs and have dropped about 3% bf.