So i am doing a 12 week cycle of test e 250 two shots a week and 40 mgs of dbol ed for five weeks. This is also my first cycle. Since this is a short cycle with only two steroid compounds would you suggest laying off the hcg. I have heard that ir can really help you rebound from cycle but frk what you wrote it seems like i wouldnt need it @cdaddy

Great Post thanks all

i use it on cycle at 500iu's every 3 days but I'm going to change it to 250iu's because prolonged use or high dosages can stop the LH from working properly and desensitise your nuts which produces your natural test which you do not want to happen, the perks of it mainly is that it cushions the blow when you crash going into PCT but its important to stop running the hcg 2 weeks before pct roughly when u take your last test e shot because it gives you leydig cell a chance to resensetivse to your bodes LH working again, so recovery won't start til the hog is out of ur body and ur lh starts producing its own natural test again.
oh and start hog 7 days after 1st shot.

example:

week 1-12 test e
week 2-12 hcg every 3days 250iu shots
week 14 pct

I dont think hcg is a good idea for pct because it suppresses fsh and lh production and nolva and clomid are trying to bring it back so its counter productive. Nolva and clomid pct is 10 times better than either one alone but imo clomid pct would be way better than nolva but together is best