posted Fri, 12/23/2011 - 03:35
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deca only cycle, advice for a friend of mine
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as much as i tell my friend to add test, even a little to the cycle he thinks he can just go deca and take nolva and he will be fine. he's not new to steroids but he reads a book and says deca only is ok as long as he take nolva. anything else to add? he will prob be running at minimum 500mg/wk, and how much nolva or other compound woul be needed to make this cycle effective in a positive way. thanks for your input.
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its ok i have hcg for sale for $200/nut
AnonLet him run a deca only cycle. When he has to tie his dick to a popsicle stick if he plans on getting any pussy.. offer to sell him the bottle of test for $300... only fair, right?
that's funny, needed that to wake up, thanks
There is not, nor has there ever been, any book written that advocates a Deca-only cycle.....at least that's what I'm willing to bet on.
I think it's far more likely that this guy simply doesn't want to spend another 150 bucks on a few bottles of test.
I would agree but I even offered himb a Bottle of test e for free , he doesn't want it. Anyhow,I guess. All I can do is give him the advice and let him do what he wants with it.
If he has a book it is outdated, truth is test wasnt very popular back in the day. Deca and D-bol was very IN and was ran in conjunction with one another with great results, although it came with sides as well. Later on when test evolved and everyone started figuring it out to be the base of every cyle for obvious reasons everything changed and everyone knows better than running it without. If he makes it to the end of this cycle, 8 weeks after he will consider a different way.
is M1T suppose to mimic testosterone closely enough that one could take that instead of test oil as a base? i know its death for the liver. i give up on my buddy, im asking now for educational purposes as you seem to know your stuff
AnonNope
Deca and D-bol was even called the "Arnold stack". Tremendously popular in its era.
I need to see this book he speaks of, even if I have to shovel the dust off the cover myself
AnonThere is nothing that will help...hold his hand when he cries about how wrong everything is going...
There's gonna be a big "told ya so", no hand holding, did enough of that already asking foolish questions on here on his behalf
I just leave this shit up to "natural selection"
Its one thing to not be privvy to the info but when the general consensus is overwhelming and these knuckleheads STILL just want to do what they want anyway... I say ENJOY muthafuckah!
tread-mBOOM...thats the magic right there my brother!
give his girlfriend my number
nice
Oh , I hear ya, agree with all of you . Will nolva/proviron help with the issue of shutdown if he keeps it throughout the cycle. Will adding clomid also help? I know test is the answer but hels done test million times but won't do it now for some reason. What will help the most besides common sense ?
FrankieNO
proviron wont help imo
nolvadex and any 19 nor dont go well together as it can hugely promote gyno
clomid on cycle is a no no
there is no way of stoping your hpta from being shut down from deca you can maybe take hcg on cycle to keep the testies in size and the hpta from totly shuting down 100% aiding a better recivery on pct but the only way to keep your manly ways about you when running deca is to run ATLEAST A HRT DOSE OF TESTOSTERONE WITH IT
IT REALLY IS VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND BRO.
its not me who doesn't understand, its the friend of mine who won't understand it, I figured that if he"s gonna do it his way (no test) , I could at least ask on here if there were suggestions that would aid him doing it his way even thougvh its not the ideal or even right way of doing it. Just helping a stubborn friend.
This may sound harsh but if you friend doesnt want to listen to you and everyone else and put all his hope in one book he read then let him do a gram of deca a week with no test. With no sex drive after that he will be like a cocker spainel with his balls chopped off. Then he will learn his lesson. Lol
Deca with out test means he wont have a sex drive for a while, thats like eating a sandwich with out the bun, my last cycle wast test /deca and my libido was in the tank just imgaine running deca by itself..
Frankienandrolone decanate is a very very very suspresive steroid ,it will totaly shut down your hpta and stop your body natural production of testosterone after just one 300mgs shot .
it really is the most suspresive steroid there is (along with tren -there both 19 nor steroids)
he needs to be talked out of running a deca only cycle as its very likely he will get some really bad sides due to haveing no natural test floating around in his system ,sides like what i hear you say ?
1-no sex drive
2-tiedness and lerfargec
3-bad mood and a low self confordance
4-very low appitite
5-no willingness to go the gym
basicly the sides above is what men have when they have no testosterone in there system and thats EXACTLY what will happen if he runs a deca only cycle .
no his cycle will be totaly different if he just adds as little as 250mgs test per week ,this synthectic will replace his natural shut down test and @ 250mgs of injected synthectic test per week he is well above the natural base line of what he would produce naturaly .
more reserch and common sence is what is needed when useing powerfull hormones that could effect your wellbeing for the rest if your life..
EDUCATION IS THE KEY .
Jtizzle+2 good info
Great post...I have read alot that 1 dose will shut down HTPA 100%, and it is wide spread iformation, but I dont believe it as ive stopped a cycle early and was able to recover with no PCT plan, 1 month in, 8 injections, and really never lost libido, although it wasnt normal, I was shut down some...However after a 12 week cycle I was shut down very hard, even after PCT. Which leads me to believe that deca does indeed shut you down hard but not 100% first shot, more like 10% every shot...Just what I experienced...
tread-mSounds right to me RD. I have actually heard a couple different people "claim" they had a successful deca only cycle with no deca dick and others that got deca dick at the proper test/deca ratio. For me its about 60/40 test high and I can't imagine deca only but I guess if this guys dick is as useful as a Christmas ornament in a while...tis the season!
Nasty81NateThe simplest way to run a deca only cycle is DONT
If he does run it, tell him to get a IV of Viagra to run if plans on having any sex, cause the high of a dose with no test is gonna cause a nuclear melt down inside his testes.
And tell him he needs to recycle that book, it's a waste of paper.
AnonVery well stated: DON'T !!!
Hope he does not plan on fucking this entire time cause his shit will be a wet noodle. I have never run deca but from all the guys on here you should always add test it is the base.
in addition , he also will run proviron.