posted Wed, 12/14/2011 - 08:20
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Injection Site Pain after first ever injection
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so i did my first ever pin on sunday evening. AB's test e. I tried a front load so i injected 2.5ml into my right glute.
today is wednesday an it is sore as a mother. Its also a little hard and a little hot. Not terrible but im worried. i sterilized, used an 18 to draw and a 25g1" to inject. no leakage. im starting to get worried bc of the warmth and the hardness....
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Pinning up testosterone is tricky and avoiding site pain even tougher. Here's what I've found helps reduce pain: 1. Warm the fluid prior to injection, I put on top of my stereo, don't use sunlight, 2. Clean the area on ur glute with alcohol allowing to dry 3 when you remove air from the syringe test is going to cover the needle, w an alcohol wipes and not the same u used for ur skin clean the test off the needle. Whe you insert the needle go slow, it doesn't hurt it's all psychological, once in inject slowly, only 1ml per injection site, the time I did 2 ml I about needed a wheel chair, when you extract ate needle pull it slowly allowing skin to fold and trap fluid. On the 3rd day if you start to feel pain, look first to make sure no redness the get in a hot hot hot tub,
Hey bro, im on my first cycle using AB's test e as well. I have been doing 1cc on monday and thursday. Totaling 500mg/week.
My first 3 weeks of injections I got really swollen and had crazy knots in my thighs. I was also pinning at night. I switched to the morning and have noticed that walking all day and rubbing it when i get chance reduces the pain later. I still get bumps in my legs but i have no problem walking. A little sore to the touch tho.
On the Side note, me and a buddy of mine were pinning the same gear(also his first cycle), and he had no knots or pain. I personally think that AB's gear is solid, it just depends on how ur muscles react.
Hope some of this helped, if not, enjoy the rest of ur cycle
thanks a lot for the info bro. yeah i think i just got unluck and got an infection on my first shot ever.
even tho i was extremely careful i have been moreso for my last 2 shots. been sore but nowhere near like the first but im also o antibiotics for the infection so i hope that i dont get another after i come off of the antibiotics.
i am sure ill be fine and i noticed that my second shot the soreness went away almost completely after 4 days (first time in that particular site).
so here's an update. i pinned late on Sunday night and by wednesday night the site was red, warm, swollen and hard and i was feverish. i came to the conlusion that it was time to talk to the doc. he perscribed me some antibiotics and the shit is already less swollen and hard after the first dose.
i did my second shot yesterday, this time into my quad (ordered some 23g1.5s for my glutes, and im hoping this one goes a little better. smaller shot but obv the infection was the problem.
i tried to be as sterile as possible but still got injected. any suggestions on how i can avoid this in the future?????
Bro you either have nasty gear or you are not cleaning the vial and your skin with an alcohol swab. If you were given antibiotics and the spot was red and feverish and the antibiotics worked you have an issue and its not the size of the pin or where you pin it. Its a you or a gear problem. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I have never had this issue.
Change your gear source
so dont use AB?
Either that or make sure you are cleaning your skin with an alcohol swab as well as the vial prior to drawing the oil. I am not pointing fingers in any direction. Try taking aa shower with antibacterial soap prior to injecting as well. Maybe even use some hibeclens soap. No one has reported this with his gear.
i didnt think he would have gotten a number one rating with wack gear.\
strange thing is i used alcohol on both the vial and my skin and this still happened. I think im gonna get some dial and shower with it before my shot to be extra sure.
Bro I know nothing about his gear, never ordered and never will. There is way to much drama over there and to many other wonderful sources here to order from. Just trying to give you some info on your issue.
AnonIm pretty sure its not appropriate to call out sources here. I would suggest you keep it to PM. Just my 2 Cents.
Not calling anyone out read through all of it. Thanks though
Sorry for the dupilcation...
thanks man
Went to mexico and purchased Testoprim D after the horror stories I have herd I decided to sell it and go a different route. Anyone have problems with Testo-d
I use 1 inch 23 gauge in the delt and inject all the way in nice and slow, no jabbing. I then inject the gear at a very slow rate close my eyes and am careful to not move the pin. I only inject delts. I have very little if no pip injecting 2mls in them. I also push the pin just prior to injecting allowing a small amount of gear to come out of the pin. Call it lubricating the pin.I then slowly remove the pin with very little if any blood coming out. I grab a cotton ball and gently massage working the oil around. I then take an alcohol swab and gently clean the area and I am off..hope this helps.
your muscle is a virgin. youll be alright
just remember to aspirate.
www.spotinjections.com if your not comfortable ;)
FrankieThats too much for your first injection , you need to break your muscle in first so it gets used to the hormone and solvents
Try 1ml next time
When you have 1ml in the syringe run a blow dryer over it so the oil gets nice and warm , this will help disperse the oil and greatly reduces post injection pain .
I use
1in 25g for glutes
3/4in 26g for delts and quads
Warm oil evertime and never have any problems
tread-mI dont hate the front load on long and not opposed to it necessarily but it serves little purpose and probably not wortbh the pain for a newb. The long ester is not going to release any faster whether it is 1 ml or 10 ml. Yes, once released you get a bigger release week hit but then you drop back down substantially the following 10 days and then begin to build again to have your best release weeks in the final 2 and the week following the cycle. Really not a good idea for a newb to drop that much oil in one hit though long ester or not. In the future, maybe third cycle, you could actually do some good by front loading a short such as prop in the first two weeks which will release and go to work day one and then eod pins with prop through week 2 will have the test active the entire first two weeks. You then drop the prop on day 14 as the long ester begins to release. You'll do fine though here just let the food control the goal brother, thats the whole deal.
Quality fn post tread, Ima probably do that next cycle I'm fucking anxious as tits waiting for this test e to kick in I'm up 5 lbs already week 2 but also stuffing my face like a horse.
my first few pins I felt like someone hit me with a fastball in my thigh at rocket speed. Now I have such mild pip it is non existent. I miss the pain! I think you will learn to pin properly over time and there is something to be said for muscles getting used to it? ( rookie here on first run but that's my 2 c )
This is the 3rd post in less than 2 weeks of people expressing abnormal PIP from AB's gear. I fear that newbies are not going to know the difference between abnormal and regular PIP. I personally went down to .5ml of AB's Test E and still had some intense PIP and knotting. In the past no issues to this degree and after switching labs I had no issues to this degree. Something is unique about Optimal Labs that is causing this degree of PIP in my opinion.
AnonFirst off like everyone has mentioned, it's going to hurt for awhile especially with it being your first cycle. Its virgin muscle, it needs to adjust, it just takes time. Your going to have pip for the first few weeks if not maybe the whole first cycle. Depends on how you work your injections and how quickly your body adjusts..
Which brings me to my second point, although 2.5cc isn't 'alot' for glutes or quads, it is at this stage when your muscle is virgin. Hit .5cc per spot so your muscles can get used to it in smaller doses, it will also help to tremendously cut the pip down. After a few weeks bump it to 1cc per site. Either by the end of this cycle or by your next cycle, you shouldnt really have hardly any pip. I do 2.5cc ed per site and I rarely get any pip now (also depending on what Im sticking), granted everyone is different, so I cant say you wont.
What your feeling and seeing now is normal, it will go away although it may take a week er so in some cases. No worries.
Lastly as a side note, when I first started out and was getting bad pip I noticed that if I did it high up on the upper quad (1-2 hand widths from top of hip bone) and towards the front more (basically straight down from tip of hip bone) that the pip wasnt as bad. Hope this helps.
You'll be fine man as long as it doesn't turn red and u get fever
Then u have infection. You will def need antibiotics.
But it sounds ok for now just keep a check on it.
Def don't shoot 2.5 into 1 area break it up
Trust me bro I have had times were I couldn't fn walk for days
Even when I was driving I had to sit on the one side lol
yeah i guess it was stupid but it was my first time ever and i figured id rather be a one and done than more than one shot....
but i will never do that again not that i will have to now im back to just 1.2 ml 2x a week....
The quads hurt the first several times I injected them; I do it now regularly without issue. Just takes a while.
Defcon23g 1.5 inch is best for glutes
TxBigBoyHonestly bro if he's pinning this much gear in one spot it's probably better if he's using a 25g so it will take him longer to inject it, the more gear you pin the slower you wanna inject so it has time to spread through the muscle without force. And the lentgh of his needle really only matters based on his bf%, if he has a lower bf% it's likely he has a small ass therefore 1 inch I perfectly fine.
This was your first pin i think you will be fine.. AS long as it dont start getting red and swelling up real bad..I use to get knots and it gets a little warm to but it always turned out fine... Just try putting a heating pad on it at night..but right now i wouldnt worry
yeah manno redness whatsoever which is why im not too worrried.
TxBigBoyYou should be fine just keep that heating pad on it for a few days and the oil will spread out. I had the same problem on my first pin, I frontloaded 2ml and I was sore for days, could barely walk. Next time limit your injection amount to 1ml and pin 2 different muscles if you need to do more than that until they get used to the gear.
yeah man walking and sitting hurt pretty good. worried about doing eadlifts today....
thanks for the info
TxBigBoyNo prob bro, yea keep doing your workouts, even if you have to go light the movement will help the gear dissipate