Complete and positive attitude change while on cycle.
Historically I can be a very angry, judgmental, and negative person. I was very easily agitated, and could be moderately violent at times. I can remember being that way for about 13 years, and in more recent years I have become a very anti-social person with a dwindling number of friends. I thought steroid use might increase the intensity of my anger, and turn me into even more of a dick to people, and just generally amplify my negative behavior. I warned my girl that I would be using steroids and that there might be an impact on my attitude and behavior. However, with about 8 weeks of use, I have literally become a completely new, positive, happy, social, nicer, more tolerant person. I have met more people and made more friends in this month alone than I have in the several years I have been out of high school. All of my girl's friends (who used to dislike me) have directly told her that I am a different person, and they enjoy being around me. My girlfriend actually says she likes whatever steroids may be doing to me. I am hardly ever angry, I am a nicer person to her, I make her feel good about herself, I am more generous, these are all things she has said have changed in me. I also recently reconnected with my best friend, who I ignored for about 10 months for no reason, other than I had just plain turned into a dick head recluse who never did anything. I visit my brother, who just admitted to hating me for being some dick head shit bag who was always pissed specifically over the last few years. He says I am different and we hang out a lot now. I go out now, I fucking DANCE when I go out, I would have never thought I would dance ever, but I do, and I love it. I sing karaoke. I have fun and make a point to make people feel good about themselves and in turn they enjoy my presence. I can talk to girls now. I remember not having much to say to girls, and generally being bad at making/holding conversation. But now, meeting girls, making them laugh, being a fun person just seems to come naturally. People contact me to ask me to do things with them, this has never been the case with me. In fact, a few years back, people made a point to not let me know things so that I would not be able to show up. I expected some sort of negative attitude changeswhen using gear, but right now, gear has really helped me become a better person. I really feel like gear pulled me out of some low-level chronic depression that had been going on for several years. Any similar stories?
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IfbbmoeShit man all I know is that testosterone makes me feel so much more upbeat, I can't get depressed on it. And the libido is great. Can't wait to start trt. Glad you have a positive response to gear
yeah, your nicer to ya misses coz ur a horny bastard and you know you aint getting shit if you fuck up during the day hahahaha, her friends now like you? yes because your being nice to her, then she tells her friends, yeah chicks be talking behind your back.
angry/ anti social/ aggressive even delusional? fuck yeah, i was all those thing at age 8 starting when i bit my teacher.
i am mr what the fuck are you looking at, you wanna step outside, i dont give a fuck and i tell you it has nothing to do with steroids, dance floors karaoke ? lmao i tried that around 6 months ago, had a night out in town on the piss with my little brother, i decided i would have a little sing, pete murray to be exact, saving grace, i tried my best and i hit a few notes, it was beautiful, then i heard something, booooooooooooooooooooooo, get of the stage ya tattooed prick you suck, go back to the gym steroids, that microphone dropped, i jumped of the stage and ran at this table which had a whole footy team (18 dudes) and probaly 6 chicks, i fly kicked mr booo straight in the face and followed through with a heap of flurrying king hits to people faces, needless to say i got mobbed and as soon as i went at them my bro was right behind me, he got bottled in 2.5 seconds, the bottle bounced off his bold head and we continued the mellay, in the end i had one guy in a sick choker hold and told everyone back the fuk up or he dies, he was purple so they obliged, i let him go when he stopped breathing.
you likely had very low t mate, that why.
anyway, just thought id tak some shit with you mate, i mean you only posted this in 2011, whynot?
RustyhookerAfter pct...6 weeks after check your full levels. Many things effect us whether mental, chemical, or situational. Control your destiny. Be good to those around you. Many factors can cloud our perceptions snd most of those perceptions are within our own minds.
This is heartwarming. I like hearing you danced. Dancing is primal, and expressive. We should all be dancing. Stay anabolic brother! -D
This is heartwarming. I like hearing you danced. Dancing is primal, and expressive. We should all be dancing. Stay anabolic brother! -D
This is heartwarming. I like hearing you danced. Dancing is primal, and expressive. We should all be dancing. Stay anabolic brother! -D
Why are you bumping a 4 year old thread like this?
To bring out the anabolic in you brother. Ha. I guess that's why he did it.
Well I don't know how the hell I responded more than once. Sorry about that. I'm new here and I'm trying to read a lot of posts before I ask questions that are maybe already answered on here. His story was genuine, and made me laugh. But sorry again for the re- re- posting.
I assume Test is a part of your cycle.
Test gives a lot of people a sense of well being, especially if you were deficient in it.
That is good to hear hustle - really glad to hear that...
I am sure it was Low T levels for me as my story has similarities. I although was pretty affable while younger/as I got older I think I may have injured myself (groin) and shut down some Test production.
But Yes....
My overall well being improved... my attitude is better, I have more energy, etc.
I now BELIEVE there is a heck of a lot more to Low T and hormone levels than I could have ever imagined. I would be VERY curious what your Test Levels are and were.. that could tell you a lot.
Mine were sub 200 before cruising around 600 at current levels. I was in at least a 5 year slump I believe before I figured this out.
With a lot of help from this site. I was even working out but was so hard to get motivated before now its like - cool - what is on the agenda for today.
I am 46 and Saturday I went for a 9-10 mile solid mountain bike ride ( not on the street ) some pretty good mid skill level trails. I then did a P-90X + plus routine for upper body. Then I took my wife out for dinner and a movie and was up till 1 am waiting on my 16 year old daughter to get home. Thats a good day for me.
Just so everyone knows how I cycle, I do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. I have done one longer break of 4 weeks off. You can find more info on this by reading stuff that Bill Roberts has written on it. Total time ON has been 8 weeks. Total time off has been 10 weeks. I noticed the change in mood right at 3 weeks ago. I am currently OFF right now and I still feel great. I don't think the gear directly alters my mood, I just think it has helped me recover from some issues I have been having for several years. Now that I have been exposed to a more positive life style and I am able to better interact socially, I realize that I don't need gear to be able to maintain this new positive change.
same here lol
Anonany chance you may have gotten some pre cycle blood tests done?
No, I don't have any of this info. Are you thinking I may have had some deficiencies somewhere in these tests that ay have been causing my issues?
Anonvery possible, there are LOTs of things biologically and neuro-chemically that can cause behavioral reactions...
I do have seasonal depression (a lot of people have this though), however it was never explained to me why I had seasonal depression, I was just diagnosed with it. I was given a special light that mimicked sunlight when I was 17. I would turn in it on and put it next to me whenever I watched TV or sat at the computer and it actually helped a lot. I used it during the winter season, and there was an obvious positive effect on my mood and energy levels. But, this never really helped with my anti-social behavior or my dick head attitude toward most people. I made visits to doctors, and my dad is actually a doctor of mental health, but NEVER was it a consideration that I perhaps had some issue with my body's testosterone. I am actually upset that this was never looked into when I was growing up, considering my negative attitude change happened around the time I hit puberty.
AnonBefore Tread goes off again on the medical field, there are OTHER reasons for seasonal affective disorder and personality issues that are expressed due to physiological factors in combination with environmental factors. I am not thinking that your particular issues is SOLELY testosterone related and quite frankly there was probably no reason to look at your t levels.. This APPEARS to be an endocrine issue or even a basic synaptic issue that CAN'T be diagnosed in conventional medical ways. So hold off on the upset because twenty (?) years ago the medical field hadn't even advanced to the point of CURRENT theories and research. Hell, the just finished mapping the human genome not that long ago..
tread-mI think he has been to the Doc in the last 20 years dear but I will yield to you as you know because you are an insider and you unlike most in the field will look for answers rather than send him home with Lexapro and take his copay! ; )
Anonso you want to try to call tech do you? theories regarding brain function have only begun advancing because of the genome project and the ability to do brain scans and they are still ONLY theories, so to expect your everyday run of the mill doc to know a whole lot about something is somewhat unrealistic. For most of them the only info they get on psychotropic medications is what the drug reps provide to them.. they don't know jack and yet 80% of psychotropics are prescribed by general medical practitioners
tread-mI hear ya, they dont know jack and yet they prescribe anyway. Like the guy that showed up recently here and his doc started his trt at 200mg long E EVERY 2 WEEKS, WHAAAAAAT : O. Hell I'm the furthest thing from a doc there is and know thats a recipe for failure. If docs spent the little bit of time researching this field they could at least be of some help, cant blame them they are simply doing what it is they are taught which is to follow the recommendations of the drug rep that takes them on the cruise every year..lol. good friend of mine wines and dines docs and takes them on fancy trips and mega expensive exotic big fishing trips and flies them around the world etc...you know that doc is pressured to follow his instruction and push his drug (lexapro for one) so the lavish trips keep comin. You on the other hand, as are some docs, will actually look for answers and ask a lot of questions etc....thats the way its done ! I get it though since I have medical people in my inner circle, get 'em feeling better , even if that means masking as opposed to solving, and farm them out. Insurance companies are at least half the problem, Docs are punished for referring you to an endo or any other specialist because its cheaper to mask you up and roll you out with one stop shopping and what sucks is most people just accept the outcome and go home and live with it...yku and I are willing to find answers in order to be and feel better but we are probably the exception to the rule. Look at the guy in Old Bstd's forum that showed up after years of bad info from doc and began his own trt and his problems are going away. Its part of why I like being of any assistance I can here. Cant tell you, well dont need to tell you, how good it feels for someone to say "I feel better than I have in. 10 years and my blood work is all good". Thats usually after 10 years of no results from the doc who was totally against trt because a 200 test level is "normal for your age". Well yea, dying is normal for a 75 year old too but if hrt can give him another 10 years and feel pretty good whats the problem? Lol. Thats the other thing that bugs me ,"normal". Well its "normal" to feel like shit after 40 but it does not mean we have to settle for normal. I'd like to see Docs do what CAN be done and make it "n ormal" to feel good at 40. Ok sorry about quotes on all the "normals". i like your thinking though on evrything and always have because well, you do think. Thats something that is evolving out of the medical world. Pretty soon we will just walk up to a machine and type in our symptoms and the atm will shoot out our lexapro, bp meds and type 2 insulin on the spot. ADM..autonatic doc machines. But Mr machine my test level is 100....computer simply says, "that is normal for a dying human, next please". You have to say that quote in computer voice and its funny....
tread-mThats what irritates me about the medical field. They simply use statistics to diagnose everyone. Statistically it was not possible that you had a T issue so it never entered the robots mind. They learn from a book of generalizations and so everything they do is generalizing. Personally I would suggest you go to an endocrinologist and have a "FULL" workup and at least you have a starting point. If there are issues you could at least present those to your doc and pull him out of his/her robotic thinking. Most anything I ever get from my doc I pry out of him by asking many questions and pushing him to actually THINK!!! To tell you that you have seasonal deprssion is like a mechanic dropping your car off in front of your house with a bill telling you your car is broke and not fixing it. Well Fing duh, I knew that without a copay doc, I came to you to help figure it out. I'm glad you are feeling better though and hope it continues to help. The test could even be just causing a reaction that is helping the real problem and if thats the best you can get without answers then it beats nothing but I still think an endo is a good start place in case there is a larger problem at play. By the way, I'm not saying all doctors suck because over the years I have found some to be very "open eared" and eager to figure out what is going on but in todays environment and all the government interfearence doctors are forced to farm patients to come out the other side with a profit. Unfortunately profit has to be their focus rather than healing but there are still doctors that have healing as their primary goal you just have to find them.
Anonthe medical system is set up to TREAT symptoms, not FIX them. INSURANCE COMPANIES AND BIG BUSINESS have reduced the system to what it is today.
Eric090585Agreed!
tread-mGlad to hear it brother . I am blast and cruiise age and while in my early years before I understood BP and a nger and rage I could go off pretty quick but as I have learned to balance well and watch BP and particularly during blast and cruise years now I am very calm by comparison. My wife tells me I went from very kind when I wanted to be to very kind all the time so yes, the balance helps me for sure. There are still those dickheads out there that cant seem to handle it but I was "that guy" so I cant say much. Of course I'm in Gorilla years so he will usually fuck with someone else so that works too! Lol. Happy for you!
Got damn bro good for you, I'm just the opposite but that's great to hear. And you danced holy shit, that's when I get really pissed off cuz I couldn't dance if someone was shooting a my feet. What were you taking test only?
Test Prop, Npp, and I have done Anavar and Winstrol separately at different times. 500 mg a week for the oils and 50mg a day with the Var and Winstrol
I RELATE BRO NOT SURE WHY IT IMPACTED ME LIKE THAT TO BUT IM DIGGING IT.SO NOW HOW TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUN GEAR PERMANATLY.HAHA
dansta123blast and cruze?
cool as a cucumber myself only time any blood pressure spikes may occur would be in my sleep..lucid dreams/sweats..good to here bro.
Its all the extra test in you body. Gives us a overall general sense of well being hence the good mood. I wouldnt advice you stay on permanantly unless your in your later years bud.
what do you consider "later years" to be?
That's a tuff one, I'd say in around your 40's.
Cool.What would you suggest for cruising?
Anonhead over to the over 40 trt section.. I'd have to say off the cuff knowing nothing about you or test levels 100/150mg week
Thank you.Will do.
AnonA1