posted Wed, 11/23/2011 - 20:17
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2nd cycle help
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Age: 27
Height:5'11
Current weight:182 lbs.
BF%: 16%
my 1st cycle was test E 300 2 x week 1-12weeks
deca 200 2 x week 1-10 weeks
dbol 40mg ed 1-4 weeks
hcg 250iu 2 x week 3-12
arimidex 0.25 ed 1-12
plus pct hcg clomid and nolvadex
I want run my 2nd cycle
sust 250 e3d 1-14
deca 400 1 x week 1-12 weeks
dbol 40mg ed 1-4
anavar 60mg ed 7-14
arimidex 0.25 ed 1-14
hcg 250iu 2 x week 3-12
hgh 6iu's ed (6 on off) 4 x 26 week
plus pct hcg clomid and nolvadex week 17-20
what you guy think pls help ?????????????????????
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OE2000Rawand.... the gorilla and the "HOT" redhead are at the top of their game. Listen and take notes... BOTH have helped me tremendously....you are young and I know "you know it all" ..hahahaha The only thing I know right now is that you'd better not touch that cheesecake! All jokes aside, you will thank them in the long run ~~~~~~~later
tread-mI would drop the sauce a little doing 3per week, tbhis will build much higher in ester values from week to week than your cyp did and as was said, at 16 % you running sauce IMO you drop the dbol and run the var at 40 split 7-10 and at 80split 11-14. Need to slow up a bit brother, you came in too fast and 2 cycles in you already have the look of someone with no patience and looking for compounds to do your wok for you. Take it from me or not, this shit is addicting and its always more more more. Do your big work in the kitchen and let a little compound and gym do the other. You will want to do this a long time I'm sure and running a cycle that looks like something I would run now after 25 years kinda tells me where you're going, it aint pretty! Thats not an insane cycle brother but you should just now be talking a 600 cyp @ 12 or 14 and 40 dbol for 4 weeks or no dbol and a var run and you jumped to sauce and var with D and deca....how many compounds do you want 2 or 3 cycles from now...10? Turtles gonna beat the hare (EVERYTIME) , which do you see yourself becoming? You have a shit ton of time ahead of you bro, use it wisely and look for people that will tell you what you need to hear instead of what you want to hear.
sust 250 e3d 1-14
deca 400 1 x week 1-12 weeks
dbol 30mg ed 1-4
anavar 60mg ed 7-14
arimidex 0.25 ed 1-14
hcg 250iu 2 x week 3-14
plus pct hcg clomid and nolvadex week 17-20
what you guy think pls help ?????????????????????
AnonThats what you posted up top..didn't you read what Tread said..
AnonI think it is crazy to do so many compounds on a second or third or even fourth cycle.. What you are trying to accomplish can be done with DIET TRAINING and REST with the supplementation of gear...SIMPLE is ALWAYs better.. you don't even have any idea of how you will react to that cocktail and if you should have negative sides you won't know which one is doing it to you.. Third doing sust so early in the game again.. do you know WHICH compounds give you WHICH sides? How will you treat? You won't know... When you do things like this and you probably plan to juice the rest of your life, you ensure that you will have to up the ante at higher doses and more compounds earlier on in the game. You will make it so that when your natty test is depleted due to age that none of this stuff will work for you if you insist on running cycles such as these... What ever happened to a good ole test deca cyle? This race is won by the turtles bro, not the rabbits.
AnonYou know when Grrrl pulls out the "bro" ..SHIT JUST GOT REAL. Love listening to you guys though..excellent advice
thanks hrdbygrrrrrl
tread-mThats a great sprint , unfortunately this is a marathon. You dont need 4 compounds in a second cycle brother. I mean you will do what you will do but in the end we all come back even if its to start over and do it right. Run your sauce and throw in the var as I said above or some variation of that and get that bf down through bust ass in the kitchen. BTW, you dont have to to run and extra compound at every cycle, if you did I be running about 50 compounds now. Run what works using as little as possible, thats how you win and make this work for years.
thanks trad-m pls help ??????
sust 250 e3d 1-14
deca 400 1 x week 1-12 weeks
anavar 60mg ed 7-14
arimidex 0.25 ed 1-14
hcg 250iu 2 x week 3-14
plus pct hcg clomid and nolvadex week 17-20
OR test cyp 300 2 x week 1-14
deca 400 1 x week 1-12 weeks
dbol 40 mg ed x week 1-4
arimidex 0.25 ed 1-14
hcg 250iu 2 x week 3-14
plus pct hcg clomid and nolvadex week 17-20
AnonIf you insist on the multiple compounds I'd go with the second one drop the dbol and front load on the deca ONLY if you have used test cyp before.
no i never used it befor
AnonWell then my recommendation is to stick to a cyp only cycle until you know what it does to you as far as side effects and gains... plan on adding one compound to it on your next cycle.. You can get phenomenal gains if you dial in your diet, training, and rest with just one compound..
From the looks of this cycle, you are trying to bulk this cycle? Seeing that your BF% is 16% which isn't bad but could be better, I suggest you just start a light cardio and diet regimen. And once you get down to 12% or so then cycle(not necessarily the proposed cycle). Keep your 2nd cycle simple, you can gain a lot just by watching your diet. Steroids don't provide gains, they just enhance them. Diet will dictate everything.
X2^^Couldn't agree more. My 2nd cycle was test cyp 200mgx2 wk for 12wks with a dbol 30mg/day kick wks 1-4. I think the GH is a bit much for 2nd cycle. But lord knows I wouldn't blame him for doing it I'd have done it if I could get my hands on some back then.