Although I am not a lady I have had some experience with T3. Its very dangerous in shutting off your natural thyroid. If you are going to do it it is not to be used as diet pills. Most people take T3 and clen the last three weeks before a show. The T3 and clen combo will strip off the stubborn fat you may not be able to get off naturally. I would strongly suggest you not take T3. Clen on the other hand is different it is a derivative of Albuterol which is a broncho dilator and vaso constrictor used for asthma. Clen raises the core body temp and helps to burn off the fat. For a female I would suggest anavar, clen and a good healthy, strict diet. In saying that you have to cycle the clen as well. start small and go up little by little and then go back down. Only stay on the clen for about 21 days. Anavar is mild for women and can be taken up to 12-14 weeks. Start off with 5mg per day and work your way up to 20-30mg per day. Hope this helps. Also, I'd have to see your diet to be able to tell if your as low on carbs as you say. Ketosis?
I'm on a pretty strict protein diet, about 120 grams a day, and only 10 to 15 grams of carbs in the form of veggies every day. I try to stay as close to 1200 calories as I can, but occasionally overdo it and hit about 1500. I test positive for ketosis every morning. I appreciate the advice, but I'm not ready to touch any anabolics. My husband lifted for years, and while he never used any, he had a lot of friends that did, and he would never sign on to a female taking anabolics. He's not happy that I want to take the T3 either, but I'm going to wait a couple more months and try to get my bf down to about 20% before I start taking it. I really just wanted to know if any women could share how it worked for them.
after having been on this diet for so long with no results, have you considered the fact that you are not eating enough calories and your body thinks it is starving?
yes, I've considered it. But, while it's taken three months, I have lost fifteen pounds. I'm thinking I need to try adding some weights to all the cardio I've been doing. It's just hard to get away with two small kids... and we're moving soon so I don't want to get a gym membership until we get where we're going. First world problems over here.
good, but I would really hold off on using either compound until you can throw the weights in there. It will make a huge difference. Keep in mind that once you start lifting you WILL have to eat more to feed those muscles. You probably won't be able to get away with such a low cal diet trying to lift. I know it is really hard with kids but it can be done..;-)
holding off on any compounds for at least three months. started lifting yesterday, and working on upping my calories. it's a lot harder than I thought it would be to increase my calories without eating a shitload of bread or pasta. any thoughts on flaxseed oil to up the calories?
Add calories with brown rice, long grain rice, red skin potatoes, sweet potatoes. Your meals need to be balanced with the three food groups in order for you body to properly metabolize everything. Most people go with the macros of 40/40/20 with carbs/proteins/fats. Fats should be good fats, like flax seed oil, olive oil, sesame oil, nuts, almonds etc.. just adding oil to up calories does not take care of the issue.
excellent. I can do rice, red or sweet potatoes. And I eat plenty of olive oil. I'm not convinced of the benefit of a 40/40/20 with the carbs though. At least not while I'm trying to lose. I don't know. I'll try it out for a few weeks and see what happens.
I use that as an example to basically say every meal needs balance. Even if you cheat and eat some simple carbs like pasta, make sure that you have a protein and fat to balance it out otherwise the absorption rates on the sugars increase and this is where LOTs of people get in trouble... balance is the key.
calculated my BMR, etc. Started the light lifting, upped my carbs and protein, lowered my fats, and I'm down two solid pounds in 48 hours. That's the most my scale has moved in eight weeks. Wish I'd ditched this low-carb crap months ago. Damn.
Keep up the work. You need to switch things up regularly so your body doesn't get used to stuff. Don't worry so much about the fats if they are the "good" ones, your body needs them for proper functioning.
(((SIGH))) this is like the 3rd post of bad to dangerous information from you... my "suggestion" to you is less posting and more reading. u really have no business running ur mouth here so please stop (or at least go to Google first so u can fake it)
oh and as far as the other 2 bad or dangerous posts you said I wrote. The only other one someone had a comment about was tren for a guy that had been out of the arena for sometime. I stated the risks behind the use of tren. You act like I was holding a gun to the guys head and making him use the shit. I dont know how long you have been in the juice arena but I was taking tren way before the "aroma therapy" kits were sold. Crushing the Finaplex up with a pill grinder and mixing it with DMSO to get the effects transdermally. I knew guys that were crushing it up and snorting it!
So, I though I was losing my mind when I read the posts from you and a couple others but I did what you told me and I googled it just for you. This is what I found. By the way there were 2 other sites I found with about the same info. anabolicreview.com
In the International Journal of Obesity, (1995; 19: 614-624), it was shown that Oxandralone enhanced bodyfat reduction significantly in both the abdominal and visceral stores.
Anavar is typically prescribed on a 2 - tablet, twice daily routine. The drug is better absorbed when taken right after meals. Woman have started with one tablet twice daily. This is thought to be the optimal dose for women.Research shows that anavar is the one anabolic steroid least likely to cause any side effects. There are very rarely reports of ill effects of any kind using anavar. There is seldom any fluid gains with this drug, which makes it the drug of choice for athletes with potential blood pressure problems. Anavar is also good for athletes who need to keep their weight down. Therefore, you will find a number of bodybuilders using anavar the last two months before competing.
Some powerlifters claim that this steroid is No. 1 for gaining strength without water weight. Women like Anavar because very little masculinisation in any form have been seen among woman who have used Anavar at a dose of 5 mg daily. Most women start out on 1 tablet per day and go up to three tablets daily. The dosage of 5 mg of anavar per day has worked out to be the optimum. The first signs of virilisaton could include persistent hoarseness, deepening of the women's voice, acne, decreased libido, and/or clitoral enlargement. If any of these symptoms should appear, the woman should end the cycle immediately.
Anavar will not aromatize. This means that it is one of the very few anabolic steroids that will not convert to estrogen at any dosage.
Effective Dose:Women: 3 tablets a day.
Then a person wrote this as a follow up:
ok ladies... there are soooooo many misconceptions about anavar and what it does and does not do, i thought i would take a moment to clear it all up for you...
Anavar, or oxandrolone is known for providing great strength gains without any water retention. Anavar can be used in a 'bulking' or 'cutting' cycle...
When the word "cutting" is used, what it really means is this:
(taken from anabolicreview.com)"Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids, which cannot aromatize to estrogen. This characteristic has various advantages for the athlete. With Oxandrolone the muscle system does not get the typical watery appearance as with many steroids, thus making it very interesting during the preparation for a competition. In this phase it is especially important to keep the estrogen level as low as possible since estrogen programs the body to store water even if the diet is calorie-reduced. In combination with a diet, Oxandrolone helps to make the muscles hard and ripped. Although Oxandrolone itself does not break down fat, it plays an indirect role in this process because the substance often suppresses the athlete's appetite"
so basically when you take anavar and when it is used as a "cutter" what is really meant is that when combined with a diet and cardio, var will keep and promote lean body mass with NO water retention.. As the muscles harden up, fat is actually squeezed out of the dense parts of the muscle.. so then as fat is squeezed out, your diet and cardio will burn it off, so basically anavar can AID in fat burning by creating tighter harder muscles.. but without the cardio and diet, you will not get "cut"... as well as when you have lower estrogen levels, the fat comes off easier! Anavar is also know for increasing ATP cycles, which is basically shuttling the sugars into the muscle for great strength gains!! And of course, the more muscle= the less fat! The suppression of appetite helps you stay on your "cutter" diet as well...
I unlike many pple here have done quite a bit of research prior to beginning ANY cycle. I am very familiar with the use of aas for women and have EXPERIENCE also. I have seen this study and many OTHERS. If you paid attention the study said up to THREE pills a day which were FIVE mg each...NOT the THIRTY or FOURTY mg YOU suggested. It is irresponsible of you and with this post you have proven it, to suggest that AAS be used for weight loss KNOWING NOTHING about this woman...who isn't lifting and is quite possibly not taking in enough calories...IF t was even remotely acceptableit would be given that all else has failed and given good health minimizing the side effects especially for a woman DISGUSTS me!
Obviously u didn't read the first paragraph about the fat reduction in certain areas. And I stand corrected on the mg dosages. That's what a figure comp. Friend of mine is taking. But she's an IFBB pro. You are correct on the dosage part.
Yes I did read the research about it and "fat reduction" I have experienced it myself taking anavar however in her given situation with 33%the body fat it WILL not work as intended withiut making her thicker. And yes the pros take much higher dosages and take higher risks with sides...
That makes absolutely NO sense to tell someone to take Anavar to lose weight. It is NOT a diet pill and if she is already at such a high body fat percentage then she is most likely going to be really unhappy with it not to mention that she isn't going to strip fat off like she wants to. It is ridiculous that you could tell her as a Man to take a steroid that is going to shut down her production of estrogen and increase her testosterone ......What is your level of expertise here and what are your credentials? Sorry but this kind of advice just pisses me off. Not only that but only women getting ready for HARDCORE Bodybuilding use more than 10mg of anavar 20 to 30 that's fucking insane..and HORRIBLE advice to give ...
Sorry I don't use t3 or any of that kind of stuff. I am already on thyroid for thyroid probs. Given the ease with which you can mess up your system using it, it isn't likely that I will ever use it or clen, ephedrine, etc.. I have used plain old fashioned diet and cardio to strip off fat and even though it takes about ten to twelve weeks it can be done with out the aid of any pills. It isn't easy nor pleasant but I think that it is probably the most healthy way to go.
down 8 pounds... word.
AnonAwesome! keep it going ;-)
Although I am not a lady I have had some experience with T3. Its very dangerous in shutting off your natural thyroid. If you are going to do it it is not to be used as diet pills. Most people take T3 and clen the last three weeks before a show. The T3 and clen combo will strip off the stubborn fat you may not be able to get off naturally. I would strongly suggest you not take T3. Clen on the other hand is different it is a derivative of Albuterol which is a broncho dilator and vaso constrictor used for asthma. Clen raises the core body temp and helps to burn off the fat. For a female I would suggest anavar, clen and a good healthy, strict diet. In saying that you have to cycle the clen as well. start small and go up little by little and then go back down. Only stay on the clen for about 21 days. Anavar is mild for women and can be taken up to 12-14 weeks. Start off with 5mg per day and work your way up to 20-30mg per day. Hope this helps. Also, I'd have to see your diet to be able to tell if your as low on carbs as you say. Ketosis?
I'm on a pretty strict protein diet, about 120 grams a day, and only 10 to 15 grams of carbs in the form of veggies every day. I try to stay as close to 1200 calories as I can, but occasionally overdo it and hit about 1500. I test positive for ketosis every morning. I appreciate the advice, but I'm not ready to touch any anabolics. My husband lifted for years, and while he never used any, he had a lot of friends that did, and he would never sign on to a female taking anabolics. He's not happy that I want to take the T3 either, but I'm going to wait a couple more months and try to get my bf down to about 20% before I start taking it. I really just wanted to know if any women could share how it worked for them.
Anonafter having been on this diet for so long with no results, have you considered the fact that you are not eating enough calories and your body thinks it is starving?
yes, I've considered it. But, while it's taken three months, I have lost fifteen pounds. I'm thinking I need to try adding some weights to all the cardio I've been doing. It's just hard to get away with two small kids... and we're moving soon so I don't want to get a gym membership until we get where we're going. First world problems over here.
Anongood, but I would really hold off on using either compound until you can throw the weights in there. It will make a huge difference. Keep in mind that once you start lifting you WILL have to eat more to feed those muscles. You probably won't be able to get away with such a low cal diet trying to lift. I know it is really hard with kids but it can be done..;-)
holding off on any compounds for at least three months. started lifting yesterday, and working on upping my calories. it's a lot harder than I thought it would be to increase my calories without eating a shitload of bread or pasta. any thoughts on flaxseed oil to up the calories?
AnonAdd calories with brown rice, long grain rice, red skin potatoes, sweet potatoes. Your meals need to be balanced with the three food groups in order for you body to properly metabolize everything. Most people go with the macros of 40/40/20 with carbs/proteins/fats. Fats should be good fats, like flax seed oil, olive oil, sesame oil, nuts, almonds etc.. just adding oil to up calories does not take care of the issue.
excellent. I can do rice, red or sweet potatoes. And I eat plenty of olive oil. I'm not convinced of the benefit of a 40/40/20 with the carbs though. At least not while I'm trying to lose. I don't know. I'll try it out for a few weeks and see what happens.
AnonI use that as an example to basically say every meal needs balance. Even if you cheat and eat some simple carbs like pasta, make sure that you have a protein and fat to balance it out otherwise the absorption rates on the sugars increase and this is where LOTs of people get in trouble... balance is the key.
calculated my BMR, etc. Started the light lifting, upped my carbs and protein, lowered my fats, and I'm down two solid pounds in 48 hours. That's the most my scale has moved in eight weeks. Wish I'd ditched this low-carb crap months ago. Damn.
AnonKeep up the work. You need to switch things up regularly so your body doesn't get used to stuff. Don't worry so much about the fats if they are the "good" ones, your body needs them for proper functioning.
(((SIGH))) this is like the 3rd post of bad to dangerous information from you... my "suggestion" to you is less posting and more reading. u really have no business running ur mouth here so please stop (or at least go to Google first so u can fake it)
oh and as far as the other 2 bad or dangerous posts you said I wrote. The only other one someone had a comment about was tren for a guy that had been out of the arena for sometime. I stated the risks behind the use of tren. You act like I was holding a gun to the guys head and making him use the shit. I dont know how long you have been in the juice arena but I was taking tren way before the "aroma therapy" kits were sold. Crushing the Finaplex up with a pill grinder and mixing it with DMSO to get the effects transdermally. I knew guys that were crushing it up and snorting it!
So, I though I was losing my mind when I read the posts from you and a couple others but I did what you told me and I googled it just for you. This is what I found. By the way there were 2 other sites I found with about the same info. anabolicreview.com
In the International Journal of Obesity, (1995; 19: 614-624), it was shown that Oxandralone enhanced bodyfat reduction significantly in both the abdominal and visceral stores.
Anavar is typically prescribed on a 2 - tablet, twice daily routine. The drug is better absorbed when taken right after meals. Woman have started with one tablet twice daily. This is thought to be the optimal dose for women.Research shows that anavar is the one anabolic steroid least likely to cause any side effects. There are very rarely reports of ill effects of any kind using anavar. There is seldom any fluid gains with this drug, which makes it the drug of choice for athletes with potential blood pressure problems. Anavar is also good for athletes who need to keep their weight down. Therefore, you will find a number of bodybuilders using anavar the last two months before competing.
Some powerlifters claim that this steroid is No. 1 for gaining strength without water weight. Women like Anavar because very little masculinisation in any form have been seen among woman who have used Anavar at a dose of 5 mg daily. Most women start out on 1 tablet per day and go up to three tablets daily. The dosage of 5 mg of anavar per day has worked out to be the optimum. The first signs of virilisaton could include persistent hoarseness, deepening of the women's voice, acne, decreased libido, and/or clitoral enlargement. If any of these symptoms should appear, the woman should end the cycle immediately.
Anavar will not aromatize. This means that it is one of the very few anabolic steroids that will not convert to estrogen at any dosage.
Effective Dose:Women: 3 tablets a day.
Then a person wrote this as a follow up:
ok ladies... there are soooooo many misconceptions about anavar and what it does and does not do, i thought i would take a moment to clear it all up for you...
Anavar, or oxandrolone is known for providing great strength gains without any water retention. Anavar can be used in a 'bulking' or 'cutting' cycle...
When the word "cutting" is used, what it really means is this:
(taken from anabolicreview.com)"Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids, which cannot aromatize to estrogen. This characteristic has various advantages for the athlete. With Oxandrolone the muscle system does not get the typical watery appearance as with many steroids, thus making it very interesting during the preparation for a competition. In this phase it is especially important to keep the estrogen level as low as possible since estrogen programs the body to store water even if the diet is calorie-reduced. In combination with a diet, Oxandrolone helps to make the muscles hard and ripped. Although Oxandrolone itself does not break down fat, it plays an indirect role in this process because the substance often suppresses the athlete's appetite"
so basically when you take anavar and when it is used as a "cutter" what is really meant is that when combined with a diet and cardio, var will keep and promote lean body mass with NO water retention.. As the muscles harden up, fat is actually squeezed out of the dense parts of the muscle.. so then as fat is squeezed out, your diet and cardio will burn it off, so basically anavar can AID in fat burning by creating tighter harder muscles.. but without the cardio and diet, you will not get "cut"... as well as when you have lower estrogen levels, the fat comes off easier! Anavar is also know for increasing ATP cycles, which is basically shuttling the sugars into the muscle for great strength gains!! And of course, the more muscle= the less fat! The suppression of appetite helps you stay on your "cutter" diet as well...
Anavar has also been shown to reduce good cholesterol.. not a nice perk if you ask me [img]http://www.************.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif[/img]
So to sum it up.. Anavar does NOT actually reduce body-fat, but it plays a key role in the process..
Your welcome.
AnonI unlike many pple here have done quite a bit of research prior to beginning ANY cycle. I am very familiar with the use of aas for women and have EXPERIENCE also. I have seen this study and many OTHERS. If you paid attention the study said up to THREE pills a day which were FIVE mg each...NOT the THIRTY or FOURTY mg YOU suggested. It is irresponsible of you and with this post you have proven it, to suggest that AAS be used for weight loss KNOWING NOTHING about this woman...who isn't lifting and is quite possibly not taking in enough calories...IF t was even remotely acceptableit would be given that all else has failed and given good health minimizing the side effects especially for a woman DISGUSTS me!
Obviously u didn't read the first paragraph about the fat reduction in certain areas. And I stand corrected on the mg dosages. That's what a figure comp. Friend of mine is taking. But she's an IFBB pro. You are correct on the dosage part.
AnonYes I did read the research about it and "fat reduction" I have experienced it myself taking anavar however in her given situation with 33%the body fat it WILL not work as intended withiut making her thicker. And yes the pros take much higher dosages and take higher risks with sides...
Dude...Are you fucking serious???
33% BF and you're sticking her on var and Clen???,,OMFG
AnonThat makes absolutely NO sense to tell someone to take Anavar to lose weight. It is NOT a diet pill and if she is already at such a high body fat percentage then she is most likely going to be really unhappy with it not to mention that she isn't going to strip fat off like she wants to. It is ridiculous that you could tell her as a Man to take a steroid that is going to shut down her production of estrogen and increase her testosterone ......What is your level of expertise here and what are your credentials? Sorry but this kind of advice just pisses me off. Not only that but only women getting ready for HARDCORE Bodybuilding use more than 10mg of anavar 20 to 30 that's fucking insane..and HORRIBLE advice to give ...
AnonSorry I don't use t3 or any of that kind of stuff. I am already on thyroid for thyroid probs. Given the ease with which you can mess up your system using it, it isn't likely that I will ever use it or clen, ephedrine, etc.. I have used plain old fashioned diet and cardio to strip off fat and even though it takes about ten to twelve weeks it can be done with out the aid of any pills. It isn't easy nor pleasant but I think that it is probably the most healthy way to go.