HRT Doc states if he prescribed Test for me it would be distribution? Really?
I am one one month into my HRT now and after about 5 trips to the doc across town I asked if he could write a scrip? I drive 30 min over and 30 back and usually wait 10 minutes... the cost is kind of ridiculous now that I see what I can get the gear for.
The doc stated that he would not be able to write the prescription as that would be distribution? I was interested in just giving myself the shots, although not real jacked about doing that myself, I guess I will get over it. The place is kind of cheesy - maybe I should go to an endocrinologist instead of the HRT factory.
In my case this is definitely needed - after 3 weeks we did a blood test and I was up to 235 or so...any chance I would make gains at 235 if I ate clean and lifted consistently?
I ordered some prop and plan on on beginning my first run upon arrival.
New to this so appreciate all the tips you might have. I am reading, listening and learning...
M
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tread-mThere is so much to ask, there are so many things at play and the best answer I can personally give you is that your hormones have to be balanced. Having said that, the building blocks for that to occur have to be present. You balance your hormones and then all goals begin there....most of those will be achieved by diet whether we are talking about increasing size, cutting etc......remember, the brain and body's axis will balance hormone. If you end up with more test than your brain can keep up with at the Growth hormone level, the body will discard the excess. That's not necessarily a bad thing unless your growth is actually low and then ultimately your test will end up low again later once the loop figures it out and re-balances to the new you. I prefer personally to take the decision away from the brain by loading both components. At that point all the loop has to do is to balance the 2 if I missed it a little. Its so complicated and yet so simple.....an endocrinologist would have to be one that cared about your goal. Most Doctors just do the same crap they always do and find some drugs to put you on to keep your type 2 diabetes in check! lol Well Doc why did I get type 2? Well M, do you remember when you came in a couple years ago and your hormones were out of balance and I didn't do shit about it? Yes I remember that....Well thats why your going to die prematurely and will likely be miserable for few years leading up to it, MY BAD. lol Doctors keep disease under control and I simply choose to find a way to keep from getting there. It all starts somewhere in a process of decline, I happen to believe its hormones being out of line and address that. I can't say I'm right, I can only tell you I have seen the way the medical community works and I do know thats not right! They don't fix problems , they find ways to mask the problem as you decline even further because the never addressed the tiny little problem you had once upon a time with a tiny little hormone imbalance. I am a realist, I will die, I just don't want to do it in my sleep having been very happy and looking good up until it happens!lol Just my 2...
Thanks again tread' I don't mind questions at all... I like your answer re: balance. There is no doubt the doc there is running a factory. I see it now after 3 short consults with him. I don't think they would miss me.
What do you believe my T level goal should be on a cycle and then on a maintainence dose?
Appreciate the info-
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M
tread-mFor your age understand yours is currently in a place where you are essentially on that balancing point....in the low "healthy range". This means you may begin to develop other symptoms that lead to disease later and you may not. I would personally like to see you at least 300 points higher in terms of "total test". This gets you away from the low end and in MY opinion much less likely to begin to have many other issues related to low T. Now thats my "opinion" for you....I want to be above the norm range at all times and balance everything else accordingly and what the loop doesn't want it won't keep. If you were to do studies , and I have read a few over the years that address hormone imbalance in the old and the poor health whether old or not, the test levels are in the low end of normal or low as a common denominator much more often than not. While I'm not a Doctor, that seems more like cause than effect when talking about why you are sick or weak or in poor health. I would argue the poor health decline was the effect of the decline rather than the decline being an effect of the poor health. Many studies confirm that to some degree as well. You have to go back to why you age. While your body is getting healthier through your 20's you are producing more new cells than the body needs. This means it uses everything it can and discards the rest. The reason we begin to age is because as some point around 30 we are no longer producing more new cells than we need, it is near balance....causing the onset of aging. Beyond that, we are producing less and less new cells which mean current cells are aging and the skin changes, the muscle changes and health in general declines and that includes hormones which are the driving force for all of it. So you just have to ask yourself "what can I do to cause the body to produce more cells?" HGH is the only thing that will actually produce more cells in the human body to my knowledge, testosterone will only increase the size of current cells. Having said that , you need the hormone balance with the test or it can't be utilized. As to what should the T be on cycle and on maintenance dose...you have to play with that since we are all different and have different factors in diet, genes etc. I would say the discussion we had about 2 cycles a year with the off cycle prop at 50mg or 100mg max would be a good start though. Thats a low end place to begin and will get you to goals even if tapered off later. I would ramp up the HGH iu's as dicussed "on cycle" and staircase back down to the maintenance level of 2 or 3 iu's off. Good place to begin. While your T and growth level will ramp up on the 2 annual cycles it is good to allow the body to reverse in age a couple times of year, this makes the maintenance that much more effective.
tread-mLOL...the last sentence should be "thats the way I do want to do it"!
TxBigBoyTread what do you do for a living if you dont mind me asking, cause you are one smart motherfucker.
tread-mhaha...pm you. No brother this is just reading and experimenting on myself for a long time. A lot of mistakes along the way and I always think it to be a pretty cool thing if I can stop someone from even making a couple of those mistakes. Any idiot can figure this out with enough mistakes and time, I just proved it. lol
TxBigBoyHaha I hear ya.