posted Wed, 08/07/2024 - 01:56
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How to set a Clean muscles bulking cycle . Use Mast E, Test E, Tren A,EQ
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This is my second Cycle
But I completely stopped training for 6 months because buying my first house. A lot of work .
Looking to rebuild my my muscles. I’m 38 now 5.8f 150 lbs
Body fat 18%
Planing to use Mast E tren A , EQ, and test E to gain more muscle and lose fat
PCT needed
Thoughts, or ideas for this cycle welcome and appreciated.
Looking to gain lean mass
And I heard add clen and proviron to PCT will help to keep most gain .
Give me some feedback please
Cycle:
| Week | Test e | Tren A | Mast E | EQ | Anastrozole | T bol |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg/ew | 50mg/ED | |
| 2 | 500mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg/ew | 50mg | |
| 3 | 500mg | 200mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | 50mg |
| 4 | 500mg | 200mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | 50mg |
| 5 | 500mg | 200mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | |
| 6 | 500mg | 200mg | 309mg | 600mg | 2mg | |
| 7 | 500mg | 200mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | |
| 8 | 500mg | 300mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | |
| 9 | 500mg | 300 mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | |
| 10 | 500mg | 300mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | |
| 11 | 500mg | 300mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg | |
| 12 | 500mg | 300mg | 600mg | 2mg |
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Are you out of your tiny 150lbs mind? You barely have any muscle at 18% bf. Go work out natty first with a good routine and diet and get your bodyfat to a 10/12%.
Then try 500mg test. Anyone who advises you to do anything else (more gear than 500mg test) as a second cycle is crazy (with all due respeck on their name).
I think a little insight into your first cycle would really help. Was it effective? How was your gains? How was your training and diet? If you just cycled but weren’t 100% committed to it, I think it’s fair to treat this cycle as your first. If you want real input that’s gonna be best for you I would say even post a pic of where you are right now. I truly believe a lot of ppl here that are recommending different compounds would get a better gauge of where you are and if running a cycle is even in your best interest at this point in time.
Thank you very much. . Buddy. I think. Yes if I put on my phots is a good idea.
Who recommended you that cycle? If i was you i'd run Test , Primo or mast , GH and Proviron for my second cycle. GH is great and you can run it also during PCT, Proviron sure but running it for too long can also suppress you while on pct. I suggest you don't take that person's advice seriously whoever recommended you that cycle and "clen" for pct.
Thank you buddy. What’s GH ? HGH ?
Growth hormone, and damn man, I just realized you were going to put 2mg of Arimidex on top of 300mg of masteron, sorry I didn’t see that earlier. You’ve got a lot more research to do. What exactly was your first cycle?
Yes
Thank you buddy
I’m leaning towards a YouTube influencer.
Might as well add hydrocodone and xanax also. And looking to add clen and Proviron to your PCT?! Holy Moly! Like Rustyhooker would say
Add 12 weeks of 20mg/day superdrol why not?
**No OP don't fucking do this. Don't even think about touching superdrol. As a matter of fact don't even research it.
Diazepam is better for an all around problem fixer. If it wasn’t so addictive and has its own set of problems I’d probably pop them like candy. But they also numb you to life, bad experiences but also the good. Who wants to walk around numb all day feeling no emotions? Tough times? Sure. All the time? I’ll pass.
You don’t need all that. Go simple but effective, Test and Mast is great with low sides. Focus on getting back into lifting for a few weeks even months before you start and get the diet in check. This is how you will see good result, not just upping the milligrams.
Thank you buddy
This seems absolutely insane.
15lbs and 18% body fat and you want to run all this? Not to mention eq is a crazy long eater and you’re only planning a 12 week cycle on it.
This is not a good cycle. I would suggest doing more research and trying again. Maybe asking someone more experienced for some in depth advice.
This ain’t it dude. Respectfully try again.
Thanks buddy. Would you like to help me ?
I would just go with Test and Mast bud, scrap the others for the time being. I have seen guys who have had just a 2 month break from lifting weights and they end up losing a tonne of strength and muscle, need to get that conditioning with the weights back again first.
Wow. Way too much. Run a long, simple Test cycle, maybe with EQ if you know how to use it. Way too soon for Tren or a complex cycle like that. BF is little high still for Mast to really do anything too.
I’m not going to downvote you as you’re here asking for advice, drop everything you’re considering. Sounds like it’s been long enough to as where you can consider this your first cycle, approach it as such, test is best. Diet and training. Whoever told you clenbuterol is good for PCT should be kicked in the nuts. If you came up with it yourself, I don’t know how flexible you are, but you need to kick yourself in the nuts. Best wishes with everything, but please don’t follow through with what you’re con’s, thank me later.
Thank you. You are right. I on my way kink his nuts . Lol
That tren and eq will turn your blood like tomato source
Is that mean tren and EQ not supposed to in a same cycle
Yes I just donated yesterday. Guy had to work the shit out of my finger to get a sample for my iron.
The real stuff, made from scratch by a wop grandmother.
One of the worst layouts of seen. The worst one I’ve seen was something similar but the guys was running 10weeks of multiple orals using bulking and cutting orals same cycle.
One of the best results I’ve seen on here was a guy that ran a little more than a trt dose, he lost like 70lbs of fat in a year and looked great. More gear isn’t the answer but diet and training regimens. You’re years away from running a complex cycle let alone using compounds like Tren. Stick to a test only cycle then your next cycle you can throw something like Anavar into the mix.
Just pick 2. Test and mast would be great. Save the EQ for the next cycle and the tren for your fourth. With this plan, your e2 will certainly be zero and you'll feel worse than an obese man in his 60s.
Horrible plan given the presented info. I see estro issues etc
5’8” 150 lbs and 18% BF. You’re gonna blast over 1.5 grams of 5 different compounds after not training for 6 months? What were your measurables before you stopped? Honestly at only 150 lbs I gotta ask if you ever seriously trained or just piddled around in the gym here and there. Where did you come up with this cycle?
When I was natty I was 5'8 140lb's and could press 315 for 2, deadlifted 450. Not sure what BF I was but bodyweight doesn't always determine everything.
anvilNo way were you at 18% that means you have almost 30lbs fat on a 5 8 frame seems unlikely
Oh for sure. Also you were training too correct? You would prob agree that 150 is small too, especially at 5’8”, add in the almost 20% BF and he’s got a lot of work before getting into gear right?
Ohh yeh I was heavily into training at the time, all I am saying is if he is strong and had been training for a few years at that weight then I'd say there is no reason why he can't use gear. If we are just going to use bodyweight as an indicator of whether someone is ready to use gear or not, then that would be like saying a guy who weighs 200lb's is fine to use gear even is he is weak as shit which I don't agree with. In my eyes certain lifts should be achieved before getting on steroids which to hit mean generally the average man has spent at least 1 to 2 years hard graft in the gym previously. I am not saying everyone should be into powerlifting or indeed a powerlifter, but a 300lb bench or 400lb squat can be achieved by anyone naturally who has put the adequate time into the gym already. Hell if I can do it at 140lb's then its not a big feat. If you cannot hit those numbers then there is still clearly training to be done and rest/diet to be improved.
I agree on the body weight not being the main factor. But trust me, if you were 140 putting up those numbers, you were in an exclusive group that could move that weight being that small. You were an anomaly bro, an exception to the rule. I think a lot of ppl are being thrown off by him saying he used to train and he cycled before, that’s why I said he needs to post a pic to get real input on what’s best for him, because that’s why we are here right? I see a lot of ppl that would see his metrics and typically advise him to get his diet in check and training locked in before running anything if he would have said this is his first cycle. He didn’t offer much of anything in his OP about where he’s at other than weight, height, BF. I’m 5’8” 190 and about 12/12.5 % BF estimate right now and I do not consider myself big. I couldn’t imagine what I would look like 40 lbs lighter and carrying an extra 10 lbs of BF.
Completely true…but this dude can’t be taken too seriously I mean this is his second cycle and he’s fucking trying to go balls deep like he’s going to look like a ifbb pro in 12 weeks time…a second cycle should maybe include n oral like dbol or anadrol but that’s about it definitely not mast EQ and tren lol. Hopefully OP is humble and doesn’t take all this too bad we only looking out fir ya bud
Yeh the cycle is too much initially, I was just pointing out to not always go off what someone weighs in regards whether to cycle or not.
Yeh this place is full of folks who love casting judgement lol but nobody will ever come close to the rusty who is no longer with us lol
Brother I’m not casting judgement on anyone, just commenting on what he said, which is he hasn’t trained and is carrying almost 20% BF at only 150 lbs. and isn’t really considered short at 5’8”, which means he has a lot of work to do on both diet and training before hopping into cycling. Was I wrong with that assessment?
No dude his cycle is complete nonsense and needs to be poked at…sad truth is most of these dudes that set this shit up and then ask have probably already ordered the shit or worse yet already started
We all know the risk we take living this lifestyle and take full responsibility for whatever may happen. I hate to see ppl take that risk when they aren’t even close to where they should be to make it a high risk/high reward situation. Instead it’s high risk/ low reward because they aren’t gonna get the desired results they think are guaranteed. I was naive when I first started running test, bad diet, ineffective and overtraining, while thinking I was gonna magically get powerful and lean. It wasn’t til I started lurking around here that I really learned how to do things the correct way, hell I didn’t even comment til 2 years later. I just listened and read.