+ 7 Oral steroids and the possible ties to hypoglycemia?
This has been something i have had issues with before and wanted to know other members opinion, experiences? Due compounds like oral winstrol and anavar steal glycogen in an effort to gather nutrients to feed the muscles and give us amazing pumps and fullness/hardness but leave our bodies at a possible low blood sugar state or hypoglycemic. First off, i have never had any family history of sugar related diseases or diabetes and in my life never experience any possible red flags that point to this, all my bloods have been great over the years.
There seems to be a weird correlation to me between oral steroids and this horrible feeling, If you have never experienced it, it is, a terrible shakiness and cold sweats followed by extreme fatigue and even vision blurryness and ghostly pale complexion at the time of the onset of symptoms. I have talked to several bodybuilders and juicers who have experienced the same thing and also were taking these type of oral compounds. I have heard of tren also doing this and just figure the protein synthesis in these compounds and nutrient uptake is so strong that if not eating proper nutrition exactly on time throughout the day you can fall into this shitty state of weakness. With that being said i've done a lot of research that suggest similar theories and heard more stories of anavar related experiences than winstrol, i run these things all the time and rarely even if ever have a high liver enzyme reading let alone any read flags for sugar or diabetic related symptoms and it doesn't always happen, but the few times it has it was all bad, and something i never wanna feel again!
I'm hoping other members can shine light on this topic and help narrow down ways to help anyone going through this or anyone who knows what i mean. Almost every solid and sound advice on anything gear or bodybuilding related has come from my brothers on this forum, please share any thoughts or experiences, i've since had the finger pinned test and all was well in sugar world, i hope this article helps someone!!btw i did put this in proper format with paragraphs but it won't save like that:)
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Bro same thing is happening to me on sdrol and that loves glyco but I also thought it might be my gh too messing with my igf levels
I get those symptoms with or without gear....I think it is more than tied to muscle mass and the constant state of rebuilding we are in.
Never had this happen to me on var can't tell u about any other orals as this is the only one I have used. I would agree with Makwa here though as I have felt this feeling numerous time when either fasting or running a very lean low carb diet. Yes it is glucose related for sure. Orange juice always took care of this problem for me. Don't think it is the Aas as much as it is the diet and carb level. Carbs=glucose. Good luck..
shiningstarHey thanks for the input bro!
i dont know what causes it, but i have felt that i was going hypo from orals before, specifically more harsh orals, dbol and supderdrol. usually its inbetween meals. i have had it happen a few times, usually after a week or so of being on those orals. i dont run either of those anymore lol.
Interesting! I too like others have experienced it. If memory serves me correct it was while running anavar. Don't run orals any longer but just as you described, cold sweat, followed by dizzyness on the verge of passing out. I remember instinct taking me right to the ladies chocolate/candy stash. It did scare the shit out of me when it would happen. Never heard of glucose packets..(thank you Makwa and Miss GRRL) Will have to pick some up just to have on hand. Like I said it has not happened since but definitely good to have. Great post brother...knuckles
Well my man here is a +2 Well deserved new tag as you are a very positive and influential member here. I enjoy reading your post and positive outlook. No homo
Hell of an honor! Eroids has had a positive impact on me. From the unrivaled AAS information, unrivaled diet information, unrivaled workout/lifting information to the most important for me...the unrivaled sense of community that each and every member brings to eroids(besides the occasional knucklehead lol)I have the utmost respect for you guys and gals and in my world that makes you all friends! Knuckles my brother and thank you!
shiningstarThanks brother bolt! if we can figure it out and how it works we can be prepared, some great info from members on here, much appreciated. I'm already ordering the glucose packs lol thanks for your experience and input as always, dude been seeing your pics bro and ur leaning out like a beast, and i salute your discipline because only few have that drive and it's not easy! your size and lean, game over!!
I agree! When the topic is a good one the info and experience starts flowing here! I appreciate your words my brother! It's people like yourself with positive energy that add fuel for the journey! Humble kind people are always the most hardcore, nothing to prove but everything to gain by uplifting others....so I imagine you are a beast in your own right my friend...knuckles!
Never put those together but now that you mention it I always tended to get that feeling within the hour popping my tbol or var... Damn I thought I was just weird though
shiningstarexactly how i felt soon after taking the orals and var for sure gets me, glad i'm learning what it is too!! thanks for your input bro!
This has happened to me a number of times, it's an awful experience to. The worst time it happened i completely soaked a t-shirt throughout, i couldn't manage that doing the most extreme cardio lol.
Gotta through down some food quick, usually sugary foods do the trick for me. I think it's the almost instant weaknesses that gets me the most, I'm not kidding i wouldn't even be able to defend myself against a kid when I feel that.
I've never related it to orals, but was using dbol when I got it all couple of times. But when I'm using any orals in the future I'll see if it gets worse or not.
Good post bro, i didn't even know what it was lol. Just thought it was one of those things.
shiningstaryeah i've been totally sweaty as shit and don't even have the energy to talk, my girl was like are you okay? i'm just like i dont know just point the fan at me and bring me some soda or candy, it sucks. what's crazy is it happens to a lot of people on gear and most of us really dont know what the hell is happening, im stoked on all the good input and info it can help us all understand it more and be ready if it happens again, thanks bro for your input and experience!!!
AnonYes it does. EQ was notorious along with tren for making me go hypo. Another reason I don't run those compounds. Candy bar, protein bar, coke, packet of sugar will keep it away. People who are actually hypo will carry sugar packets on them at all times
we've gone high tech cronus... we use glucose tabs now days ;-)
AnonLol I need to keep up with the "times"
lol... funny .. very funny ;-)
shiningstaryeah i started to carry that stuff too and be prepared just in case it came on from reading stuff about people who were hypo or diabetic, like makwa said i found out the glucose packs and tablets are the best for that situation so i'm stocking up on some. they are usually in like the diabetic stuff in the store by pharmacy and brands like glucerna. thanks for your info bro!
I get this off tren and anavar I've found that keeping a protein bar and some cola around works a treat for me I don't get the vision problem or the pale complexion but an uncontrollable urge for sugar/food as soon as I drink the cola it goes then the protein bar lasts me till my next meal. I've noticed this happens mid morning between 9.00am and 11.00am hope this helps buddy
shiningstarhey thanks for input! yeah i guess i hear that steady meals and snacks with protein can keep this from happening completely. i forgot to mention i do get that crazy hungry craving type feeling too, few times its happened were morning also, but also a few nights as well. maybe cuz we're already in a starvation state from the hours sleeping so our body need that nutrition asap, thanks this helps alot!
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No problem buddy stay safe mate
Great topic!!! We spoke yesterday about me going thru this. It scared the shit outta me. I ran to the store for food . I too have no history of this in my family either. I'm on test ,tren, adrol now. All I cud see was sugar at the store and as soon as I had some in my system I was back to normal as fast as it came. I was shaking, sweting and loosing my mental focus fast. After a payday and some food I was fine. Idk man I wish I had some shine to put on this but this is what happened and thanks for being thier when it went down.
shiningstaryep after hearing that and just telling you how hard it hit me a few weeks before and talking to others i train with i had to make a forum cuz i wanna figure out how to beat it, it sucks. I found that alot of dudes online say tren causes this from time to time but there's a ton who don't ever get it. Glad i could be there to help brother!! shits scary if you don't know what's happening, damn i never do know what's happening
I have never heard of them causing anyone to go hypo. Var and winni are typically what I would call cutter steroids so when someone is using these they are likely using them along with a cutting diet. Cutting diets consist of low carbs. Now....pair those low carbs with intense training and cardio that goes along with cutting and you have a recipe for going hypo. Happened to me several times last prep, when my carbs got real low with cardio sometimes 2x/d along with weight training. When carbs are higher, no problems. So I think it is more diet related than AAS related.
SeriousOpenfkne...This junkie is correct fellas.
LOL........ why not write a post up about your experiences and methods regarding steroids, all i see you doing is Trolling other members.... its a bit sad really when you are trying to sell yourself as an Alpha male but coming across as a right little kiddie ;(
Man up dickhead and do something productive for a change or just fuck off somewhere else where you can play Big Dog with the other Kiddies.
shiningstarbro you are totally right! it could be the dieting and lack of carbs, i'm usually always trying to cut when on orals, key word trying lol, but yeah maybe that's why once you get quick carbs in it goes away, thanks for this makwa, your advice is always spot on.
I carry glucose packs with me at the gym. When I feel it coming on I have to pop one of those packs.
shiningstaryep i am going to buy these!
AnonWhere do you get those glucose packets?
i used to use them when i was doing triathalons ............ you can get them at the vitamin shop or even a local bike shop should carry them ... the chocolate one was my absolute favorite ;-)
AnonI'll check out a vitamin shop near me. Thank you!!
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkThe stuff I used was GU (goo) gel. I actually haven't bought any myself. There are alot of crosscountry skiers and cyclists where I work out and after I got all glassy eyed and hypo during spin class they all pulled out their GU packs and gave them to me. They kept me well supplied with them after that. Apparently a lot of long distance type athletes use this stuff to keep energy levels up during a race or training. I am sure you could pick them up off amazon or some similar type of glucose gel. The cinnamon apple pie flavor is pretty good by the way.