posted Fri, 08/31/2012 - 08:17
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Alcohol and steroids???
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I was wondering what everyone thinks about drinking and cycling? Is it ok to ocasionally have a drink? Is it worse in combo with oral steroids or injectable? Can it dramatically change your health in a bad way? What does everyone think about this?
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I used to. Not anymore. I periodically have a drink socially. Once a month is even a push. But I just can't handle it anymore franky. I don't enjoy it. I go straight to a hangover. Headache, dehydration, yuck! I would rather train
Man, sounds like I shouldn't drink as much :(
mr127superdeeIt depends on your liver strength and how much abuse its used too. even when im on orals i have a beer on friday at flannigans. And i never have liver trouble tho if you can avoid it its best but def not more than a beer once a week....that would prob f some liver up!
It totally depends on your liver, your body, your diet, your health, what your taking, how you drink, and so on. If your body is in overall good physical and cardiovascular health then it will do no harm to have a social beer once in a while....however that definitely does not translate to once, twice, 3 times a week like some people think once in a while means. Alcohol is not a bad substance in moderation, in fact it can actually have beneficial sides from happiness to resveritrol. But, anything in moderation can be good for you. The inly problem is if you have a high liver enzyme count and you know that u have been tough on ur liver, u take testosterone, trenbolone, painkillers, anti-anxiety meds (benzos), you eat mcdonalds and taco bell 4 times a week, u dont drink enough water, you take advil everyday for headaches, u drink tons of coffee, so on and so forth, then yes one drink or whatever can be bad. It can make you feel like total shit because ur enzymes rose even more and ur body now has more toxins in it to expell. Bit overall if your in good health and you are doing it in moderation and you dont treat yiur body like shit, alcohol is not bad every now and again. Personally though i dont drink at all.
definitly a no no with oral. but ive noticed that on occasion when i have 3-4 beers, i have great days in the gym the day after, as long as i keep up with my diet when doing so.
I think a drink every now and then is fine.. A big no no if you do oral aas like every one said.. If your the type that can't just drink one or two then I would say don't drink at all on cycle.. You know if you are or if your not
Definately wouldnt want that to happen
I figured the liver would be more stressed, especially if orals were in play. So off cycle of course would be the best bet with that to make sure no damage is done.
Correct. Take your milk thistle with your orals. Having A beer probably won't hurt ya. I used to bounce and the obnoxious juicers thinking they were king Kong......somehow they fell down a lot ;). It's just like anything in life....too much has a cost.
cdaddy7No alcohol with orals especially. Double whammy on the liver. Alcohol and the methylated orals kill the healthy liver cells. Together u will trash ur liver panel and possibly do permanent damage. No need to risk that for a buzz
I think a beer or two is fine. But I think alcohol raises estrogen levels correct me if I'm wrong.
cdaddy7Correct and has 9 unless calorie value per gram that takes double the cardio to burn off compared to fat. Alcohol in the body converts to formaldehyde
7 cal/g
cdaddy7Not correct....9......check for urself....I do my research bro not pull it out my ass
http://www.livestrong.com/article/31781-calorie-content-list-alcohol/
Well your not wrong but she is, I study food science health nutrition and my professors are Phd's and registered dieticians and it's been 7 in every lecture and text book. And believe me alcohol is of real interest to college students.
http://www.mckinley.illinois.edu/handouts/alcohol_nutrit_101.html
u are both wrong it is 7.8. For reference you have to check my ass because that is where I pulled it from.
That's good shit. Who's gonna check finafan's ass first?
also having 1 alcoholic beverage can slow down your metabolism for up to 4 days.
Fully agree! All the work to clean out the system.
I did some quick research cause that didn't sound rite. Methyl alcohol (Methanol) gets converted to formaldehyde, not Ethyl alcohol, that is converted to acetaldehyde (not quite as bad as formaldehyde).
cdaddy7You are exactly right Gorillafit, LOL. I know what I was thinking of when I typed it. I realized that after I typed and left for awhile and I came back to change it and you beat me. Thanks for having my back. I was slipping
No Problem, I always thought that's why I looked so young, all the alcohol had preserved me! LOL ;-P
cdaddy7I wish bro LOL. Im sending you a FR
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cdaddy7Like oil and water. They don't mix. If you like to drink I would save it until off cycle. It counterproductive to you and ur cycle, like fast said It's unnecessary stress on ur liver and body. You be better off just having a bottle of water and keeps ur game on point with the ladies. Like, no beer goggles. Lol
They're ALL 10's at 2!! Haaaa
cdaddy7Yes sir, and then we wake-up and chew our arm off trying not wake the beast lying next to us!!!!! The flashbacks just gave me the kweebeegeebees!!! Yikes
Im not thaaat ugly.....jeeeze. Lol
cdaddy7Lol or worse case scenario you look under the sheets and find out she's a tranny!!! Noooo!!! Don't drink on cycle!!! Lol
Lmao!! Run Forrest...run!
I personally dont drink myself. Lets say you goto a,wedding and have a couple glasses of wine. And thats one time out of the year. That couldnt do anything bad for you. Could it? I dont think it would cause a problem.
StevebIt's worse with orals on your liver and it slows protein synthesis.
Obviously you will maximize your gains by abstaining from drinking no matter what your cycle is. If you want to take your cycle as serious as possible you wont drink.
However most injectables are not as toxic to the liver as some think, and does not damage genreal health very much. In my opinion, if you are taking all the right on cycle supplements to maintain health, then occasional drinks are totally fine. I personally drink once or twice a week on my Test Prop cycle.
If you are taking any orals it could have diminishing effects on your liver. I would stay away from drinking if on most any oral.
I do have friends that run heavy oral/ASS cycles, who party every night and seem completely fine... I wouldn't advocate it though
More liver stress. Alcohol actually poisons every single cell in the body. If you're an asshole druck...you're gonna get Beatdown or end up in jail mixing. But having one won't kill ya. Getting tanked on cycle is uber harsh.
Frank Zane used to drink red wine throughout his cycles and career...the reasons for I don't know, but he did win the O like 3X right?!?!?!...if it was okay for him, I am sure it will be okay for us.
HOWEVER!!!...getting tanked on cycle is a BIG NO-NO!!!...not good whatsoever!
A glass of red a nigjt busts cancer etc. frank was radd!!