posted Mon, 11/25/2013 - 23:51
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PCT, when to use NOLVADEX, TAMOXIFEN and CLOMID
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Hello
In a PCT, can anyone tell when to use NOLVADEX, TAMOXIFEN and CLOMID. Is this depended on what I have used in my cycle or is it best to take all of these and what dosis?
Thanks
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BilMcbigballsTamoxifen and nolva are one and the same homie. Sheeez......
bigunWags got you lined out pimp. Super solid info there. Imaginary +1 from me ;)
I have only done 1 cycle before 2 years ago. Test-E, and some dbol. Can not remember how much but was for 8 weeks
Buddy you really shouldn't be running 7 different compounds for your 2nd cycle let alone stuff like tren/t3/clen.. tren will shut down your natty test much worse than test or dbol besides the t3 and clen will be a bitch to come off of during pct.. your thyroid will be all kinds of fucked up.. also it doesn't sound like you have the correct ancillaries to back up using a 19nor..
Imo something like test/mast is PLENTY to cut down with the correct diet.. if anything stay the hell away from tren or t3
I have just heard that the Rip-Puro which have TRENBOLONE ACETATE, TEST-PROPIONATE ,
MASTERON-ENANTHATE should be good. Maybe then drop T3 and clen?
really??? when i see these posts i wonder two things, is this a troll, or have they not spent anytime reading and researching? im hoping you just havent spent time researching. tren is not for a beginner. it is serious, it comes with real risk, and real danger. you are talking about running compounds that only an advanced user would even consider. im sorry i dont mean to offend, but im not convinced of your intentions here. please reassure us you arent just trolling.
Of course I wonder the same thing but I'd rather try to help just in case lol.. you'd be surprised
Hi,
No trolling from me. I saw this cutting cycle 25mg winstrol and 25 mg Anavar ed and some T3 and Clen - all oral. Then I aksed the web site, if I want to add some injectable good stuff what will you suggest for this cycle and I got the answer Rip-Puro which contains tren.
I am open to alternatives for a cycle
thanks
thank you, by being open to alternatives, it shows you are not trolling. i would suggest that being this is second cycle. i would reccomend 3 possible cycles.
one-
test e/c and anavar 12 weeks long run the test at 300mg a week, from weeks 1-12 and the anavar weeks 7-12 at 40mg a day(20mg am 20mg pm) as a second cycle this is a simple cycle, it will give you some mass but also lean you out.
two-
test e/c and masteron e
12-14 week cycle both compound for 12-14 weeks test at 400mg a week and masteron at 400mg a week you can split these doing 200mg of each on monday than the other 200mg on thursday
this a great combo to put on lean mass, keep any water off, helps keeps estrogen in check, and increases vascularity.
third cycle
test e/c with a test prop kicker
running 400mg a week of long ester test from week 1-12 and the first two weeks pinning 100mg every other day of test prop. this gets you going on the cycle quicky and making gains fast. although it wont lean you like anavar and mast will
ideally being a second cycle i would suggest just running a simple test only cycle. you will still make great gains running test only for a while as long as you are doing correct PCT and controlling the estrogen properly.
one last option would be to run 250-300mg a week of long ester test and 25mg of proviron for 12 weeks. this will harden you up and give you some lean mass.
we can talk PCT and anti E after we decide a good cycle
Hi again
About the PCT, I have read that a lot is using Clomid 100/100/50/50 ed and Novaldex 40/40/20/20 ed, would this be sufficient for this cycle or will I also need Aromasin
Thanks again for your patience
That is an ideal pct. you should always run an ai during pct. often the most common time we help people deal with gyno is during pct or after because of not using an ai correctly during pct and than developing estrogen rebound. If aromasin is effective for you than yes you should run it during your pct.
BilMcbigballs+1 couldn't have said it better
Hi
Thanks for the suggestion – appreciate it. I think I will go for option 1 or 2. Which one of the to options will you say gives the best lean/ripped look?
bigunWhat's your diet look like homie? The reason I ask is that most of the results you get from the compounds are going to be determined by what your eating.
I was thinking about something similar to this. This is about 2000 calories per day, This is a diet I found on this site - commments more than welcome
MEAL 1:
Spinach Omelet - 3 eggs and 1 cup of baby spinach
Bowl of muesli cereal and soy milk
1 banana
1 coffee
MEAL 2:
Chocolate Nut Shake
1 x protein powder scoop
1 x tablespoon peanut butter
1 x teaspoon chia seeds
2 cups almond milk (chocolate unsweetened)
2-3 ice cubes
MEAL 3:
Grilled Steak With Avocado-Tomato Salad
4oz Top Round Steak (alternate with chicken thigh and salmon steak)
1/2 avocado
1 tomato
1/4 Spanish onion
Vinegarette
MEAL 4:
Post workout protein shake - 2 scoops and water
MEAL 5:
Flax Pasta With Hearty Sauce
Cubed Boneless, Skinless Chicken
Breast 2 oz
Whole-Wheat Flax Penne Pasta (I prefer thing spaghetti)
1 cup sliced mushrooms
1 cup brocilli
1/2 cup of marinara sauce
tablespoon (a bit more) virgin olive oil
i think test and masteron would be the best option.
Solid info as always.
I would drop the trenbolone too.. it's very harsh and not something you want to take for you 2nd cycle.. It will affect prolactin levels in your body causing you to lactate like a pregnant woman if you do not know what you're doing plus it also suppresses your thyroid.. this also means you need to take more drugs to combat that side effect and more side effects come from those drugs as well.. If you're diet is on point with just test let alone the mast you'll cut body fat very easily in 6-8 weeks.. You could always use caffeine and aspirin in place of clen/t3.. they work fine
Hi
I have not started it yet, will start after X-mas. age 35, 188cm, 90kg have done fintness center for 3 years and in good shape
Goal, to be ripped not big
bigunHow many cycles have you run prior to this one big guy? Mind telling me what they were? Probably can set you something up where you can get ripped up by spring with fewer chemicals and less sides/hell for your body to go through.
bigunAge? Stats? Goals? Priors? Have you already run this cycle and are ready for pct or are about to run it?
I will do a cutting cycle
TEST-PROPIONATE 50mg eod,
TRENBOLONE ACETATE 50mg eod,
MASTERON-ENANTHATE 50mg eod,
25mg Winstrol ed,
25mg anavar ed
and some Clenbuterol &Cytomel T3 for 6 weeks
Tamoxifen is nolvadex. nolvadex is the brand name of the compound. we also need a little more info. like what you were running and for how long and what doses of the compounds were you running to answer these question right.