Clean slate time.................... Physique is why i am in here, and yours deserves +3........ i can see further and deeper than steroids and your hard graft is plain for anyones eyes to see, a build like that doesnt just happen overnight or from pinning alone.
You are doing plenty right my young bro......... good luck
Lol. I've acomplished more than probably 99% of the eroids comunity at 21. I've set multiple national deadlift and bench records and competed in more competitions than I can count. I spend endless hours in the gym killing myself, preping meals, and doing research. My blood panels are perfect every month. At 245lbs I can run a 6:45 mile (no that's not that fast but at 245lbs I think that's doing something). I know the body and its systems inside and out, and have probably spend more time researching hormones/side effects than I have spent time with my own family in the last 5 years. And yet I get neg'd simply for my age, likely by some fatass with 380 cholesterol and 200/200 blood pressure who's liver looks like swiss cheese and has eyes yellower than a jaundice patient's because he's been on orals for a straight year. But it's ok for him to run a cycle because he's 25/older. You guys are right tho. Ya know....maybe Arnold should have waited too.....
Every fucking day I got to explain this. Like it or not, we have decided that members under 25 will not be getting advice and should in fact lay low, fly under the radar, learn, observe and enjoy the benefits this site has to offer. You can argue all you want but that's how it is. So either accept it and stay or not. Choice is yours.
With a attitude like that you won't get far here bro...
No need for you to come across all hateful and rude. They are alot of other member's here that do the same you have described and alot more than that.
You are letting your young age show bro no need for all that. This forum is all about helping and learning and growing together. You don't even know who negged you and you speak like that guess speculating bro. Good luck bro and be safe.
My goal here isn't to get real far....bro. Not real sure what "gettin far" in the world of eroids really means. If "getting far" means retaining every drop of knowledge eroids has to offer then im already pretty far. But if "gettin far" means a lot of karma then I could give a fuck less. and what does "there are a lot of members here that do the same as you and a lot more than that" mean? What are they doing a lot more of? Because unless your referring to "a lot more" doseage wise, I'm sure they're not. And I had "speculated" that because when I scroll through eroids pictures I see a vast majority of people who SHOULD NOT even be looking into steroids because they look like starving ethopians or like a ziplock bag full of lard who obviously don't even have self discipline to buckle down to the simplest concept of this game: DIET. And as I scroll down past their pictures I see comments like "wow great job" "huge bro" "crazy ripped man" "swole man" and many other positive things that are justified because of their age. Even tho they OBVIOUSLY have NO concept of the drugs they are taking, the terrible diets they are on, or the long term effects of what they are doing to their selves. But then I post a pic of myself because I'm making REAL, HEALTHY, POSITIVE progress and I get neg'd because I'm a 21 year old. Why? Age does not define maturity. And i ain't saying I know everything. Nobody does. But I know damn well I got my shit together ALOT more than most of the people I see in pictures here. I'm not someone that dives into something without knowing anything about it. I'm the exact opposite. Im the person who wants to know EVERYTHING about something so when I decide to indulge in that something I don't just indulge...I fucking dominate, pushing forward with no setbacks because I did my research to prevent any possible hiccups that others run into, taking every precaution possible so I can perform at 110% nonstop. Unfortunately in the game we are in nobody knows everything. But I'm not worried about not knowing enough. I've been in college for this for 3 years now, and every minute I'm not at school, lifting, eating, or sleeping, I'm researching man. I'm sorry if I came off rude in my posts. But I was just rubbed wrong because of what I've already described earlier with seeing other peoples pics and responses and comparing to the responses I get, which are always age related. I'm not trying to fight with anyone, but I'm not going to roll over and accept something I don't feel is right either.
I can see and understand some of what you say and some I don't. Seems like you have your mind made up and have drive that's good you research and research more before jumping in something head first. How about if you have all this knowledge and exsperience why not help other's along the way instead of putting then down and saying bad things?
I understand you got pissed because someone negged you that doesn't change the fact or have anything to do with nothing and isn't worth getting mad over something so small. I bet you try a different approach you might like it who knows. Be a better person and help other's along the way other than become what you dont like. I'm not bashing you because it is what it is and just saying this from a 3rd party stand point. I'm sure you have and had people helping you along the way, If so I bet they don't get aggravated as much or at least they just keep it inside a and move on use it as fuel. Just like to see people and other's help is all. Just think about it and see what you think really no need to get all worked up for that at all. Have a good one.
No prob bro. You're going to have somebody "neg" you in some way or another for the rest of your life. If you learn to handle it well then you will go far in life.
I don't know who negged you bro. I don't bash on anyone because of their age. I'm nobodys daddy and really couldn't give a fk less what somebody else does to themself, especially if they are downright determined to do it. REREAD my post please. First part was a joke, a reference to a song that probably only a few old bastards on here would get. Not aimed at you. I said to be careful and safe. Also said you look better than most of us. Eroids sets the age limit and we have to abide by it or we all get bashed as well. Why 25? Why not 26? Hell, a male can continue to mature until around 27. I don't know but that's the way it is here. looked at your old pics. If those "natty" pics really are, then you have a gift. The friendly advice given to you by a complete internet stranger was, to paraphrase, you already have more than most, and if you're going to go down this road, try not to fkn blow it. There's a long list of phenomenal bodybuilders and weightlifters who started very young who are either fkd up or dead. My advice along with a plug nickel and you still can't buy a cup of coffee. Take care and good luck.
Big bad John. Oh wait, he was 6'6" and weighed 245.
Listen bro, you've been here almost 3 yrs. I went through you're other pics and read the comments. There's probably not much that hasn't already been said regarding your age and AAS use.You are obviously going to do it anyway so I am not going to join in on the bashing that will ensue. I will say that you do look better than a lot of us, but at what cost and for how long? 80 yrs old seems like forever away, but you'll blink and be there. If you fk around too much though, you may not see 30, so please, be smart and stay safe young bro. Life is short enough. No need to end it early.
Well said grit at 21 you look good get off the gear and maintain now until you are older and need gear to look like that because I have boys that I work out with that look better than that and they are natty at 21 you just have to put in the work
You know boys at <10% bf 245lbs benching 525, deadlifting 810, and squatting 730 at 21 years old that are NATTY!? Ok. So I just need to "put in the work" huh? well thanks for the advice. I'll try to step up my game.
Bro i think you are misunderstanding me you look great and with or without gear you have to put in work to get to where your at im just saying now hold off on using anymore gear and keep killing it in the gym. You don't have to step up your game. Your bigger than I am. I just believe you can do it without using anything. Keep it up brother.
Bigmurph
+1 your looking great i just cant support you using gear
Its cool im sure you catch alot of shit because of your age but us old timers are just trying to look out for you. Your build is great at 21 i was right there when I was 23 so you have me beat but now im fighting to keep my bf down because I don't have low test in the medical sense but I don't have the levels i should because I started when I was around 18 and when you get older it sucks when you start young so if you could get off the gear for awhile and just lift and enjoy it then when you get older use because you will need to from using when you were young like me and a couple other guys here. Then you need it to get your levels up.
Good luck to you brother keep killing it in the gym
Damn huge! Nice work bro
Huge Huge Huge ! very impressive brother !
Excellent work my man. Obviously know what you are doing! Keep it up +1
Clean slate time.................... Physique is why i am in here, and yours deserves +3........ i can see further and deeper than steroids and your hard graft is plain for anyones eyes to see, a build like that doesnt just happen overnight or from pinning alone.
You are doing plenty right my young bro......... good luck
Thank you man I hugely appreciate it!
Oh Damn all this over my FAT thumb lol my apologies big guy meant to thumbs up, +1 n I'm glad you have done your research brother KEEP GRINDING
PS I'm not fat lmao
RustyhookerYou need to chill out
Sorry lol
RustyhookerVike is correct. Be an ambassador to the sport. Humble and honest will get you there. Be safe!
Lol. I've acomplished more than probably 99% of the eroids comunity at 21. I've set multiple national deadlift and bench records and competed in more competitions than I can count. I spend endless hours in the gym killing myself, preping meals, and doing research. My blood panels are perfect every month. At 245lbs I can run a 6:45 mile (no that's not that fast but at 245lbs I think that's doing something). I know the body and its systems inside and out, and have probably spend more time researching hormones/side effects than I have spent time with my own family in the last 5 years. And yet I get neg'd simply for my age, likely by some fatass with 380 cholesterol and 200/200 blood pressure who's liver looks like swiss cheese and has eyes yellower than a jaundice patient's because he's been on orals for a straight year. But it's ok for him to run a cycle because he's 25/older. You guys are right tho. Ya know....maybe Arnold should have waited too.....
Every fucking day I got to explain this. Like it or not, we have decided that members under 25 will not be getting advice and should in fact lay low, fly under the radar, learn, observe and enjoy the benefits this site has to offer. You can argue all you want but that's how it is. So either accept it and stay or not. Choice is yours.
I didn't ask for advice. But I understand. Thank you
Thank you
You are more patient than I ...
With a attitude like that you won't get far here bro...
No need for you to come across all hateful and rude. They are alot of other member's here that do the same you have described and alot more than that.
You are letting your young age show bro no need for all that. This forum is all about helping and learning and growing together. You don't even know who negged you and you speak like that guess speculating bro. Good luck bro and be safe.
My goal here isn't to get real far....bro. Not real sure what "gettin far" in the world of eroids really means. If "getting far" means retaining every drop of knowledge eroids has to offer then im already pretty far. But if "gettin far" means a lot of karma then I could give a fuck less. and what does "there are a lot of members here that do the same as you and a lot more than that" mean? What are they doing a lot more of? Because unless your referring to "a lot more" doseage wise, I'm sure they're not. And I had "speculated" that because when I scroll through eroids pictures I see a vast majority of people who SHOULD NOT even be looking into steroids because they look like starving ethopians or like a ziplock bag full of lard who obviously don't even have self discipline to buckle down to the simplest concept of this game: DIET. And as I scroll down past their pictures I see comments like "wow great job" "huge bro" "crazy ripped man" "swole man" and many other positive things that are justified because of their age. Even tho they OBVIOUSLY have NO concept of the drugs they are taking, the terrible diets they are on, or the long term effects of what they are doing to their selves. But then I post a pic of myself because I'm making REAL, HEALTHY, POSITIVE progress and I get neg'd because I'm a 21 year old. Why? Age does not define maturity. And i ain't saying I know everything. Nobody does. But I know damn well I got my shit together ALOT more than most of the people I see in pictures here. I'm not someone that dives into something without knowing anything about it. I'm the exact opposite. Im the person who wants to know EVERYTHING about something so when I decide to indulge in that something I don't just indulge...I fucking dominate, pushing forward with no setbacks because I did my research to prevent any possible hiccups that others run into, taking every precaution possible so I can perform at 110% nonstop. Unfortunately in the game we are in nobody knows everything. But I'm not worried about not knowing enough. I've been in college for this for 3 years now, and every minute I'm not at school, lifting, eating, or sleeping, I'm researching man. I'm sorry if I came off rude in my posts. But I was just rubbed wrong because of what I've already described earlier with seeing other peoples pics and responses and comparing to the responses I get, which are always age related. I'm not trying to fight with anyone, but I'm not going to roll over and accept something I don't feel is right either.
I can see and understand some of what you say and some I don't. Seems like you have your mind made up and have drive that's good you research and research more before jumping in something head first. How about if you have all this knowledge and exsperience why not help other's along the way instead of putting then down and saying bad things?
I understand you got pissed because someone negged you that doesn't change the fact or have anything to do with nothing and isn't worth getting mad over something so small. I bet you try a different approach you might like it who knows. Be a better person and help other's along the way other than become what you dont like. I'm not bashing you because it is what it is and just saying this from a 3rd party stand point. I'm sure you have and had people helping you along the way, If so I bet they don't get aggravated as much or at least they just keep it inside a and move on use it as fuel. Just like to see people and other's help is all. Just think about it and see what you think really no need to get all worked up for that at all. Have a good one.
I see what you're saying. Thanks for the advice man. This is supposed to be a positive place so I'll do more to keep it that way. Thanks man
No prob bro. You're going to have somebody "neg" you in some way or another for the rest of your life. If you learn to handle it well then you will go far in life.
I don't know who negged you bro. I don't bash on anyone because of their age. I'm nobodys daddy and really couldn't give a fk less what somebody else does to themself, especially if they are downright determined to do it. REREAD my post please. First part was a joke, a reference to a song that probably only a few old bastards on here would get. Not aimed at you. I said to be careful and safe. Also said you look better than most of us. Eroids sets the age limit and we have to abide by it or we all get bashed as well. Why 25? Why not 26? Hell, a male can continue to mature until around 27. I don't know but that's the way it is here. looked at your old pics. If those "natty" pics really are, then you have a gift. The friendly advice given to you by a complete internet stranger was, to paraphrase, you already have more than most, and if you're going to go down this road, try not to fkn blow it. There's a long list of phenomenal bodybuilders and weightlifters who started very young who are either fkd up or dead. My advice along with a plug nickel and you still can't buy a cup of coffee. Take care and good luck.
Yeah I see. Thanks man. Sorry for the misunderstanding
Big bad John. Oh wait, he was 6'6" and weighed 245.
Listen bro, you've been here almost 3 yrs. I went through you're other pics and read the comments. There's probably not much that hasn't already been said regarding your age and AAS use.You are obviously going to do it anyway so I am not going to join in on the bashing that will ensue. I will say that you do look better than a lot of us, but at what cost and for how long? 80 yrs old seems like forever away, but you'll blink and be there. If you fk around too much though, you may not see 30, so please, be smart and stay safe young bro. Life is short enough. No need to end it early.
bigmurphWell said grit at 21 you look good get off the gear and maintain now until you are older and need gear to look like that because I have boys that I work out with that look better than that and they are natty at 21 you just have to put in the work
You know boys at <10% bf 245lbs benching 525, deadlifting 810, and squatting 730 at 21 years old that are NATTY!? Ok. So I just need to "put in the work" huh? well thanks for the advice. I'll try to step up my game.
bigmurphBro i think you are misunderstanding me you look great and with or without gear you have to put in work to get to where your at im just saying now hold off on using anymore gear and keep killing it in the gym. You don't have to step up your game. Your bigger than I am. I just believe you can do it without using anything. Keep it up brother.
Bigmurph
+1 your looking great i just cant support you using gear
I see what you're saying. Thanks man really appreciate it. Sorry to the confusion there, I wasn trying to be a dick. My bad man.
bigmurphIts cool im sure you catch alot of shit because of your age but us old timers are just trying to look out for you. Your build is great at 21 i was right there when I was 23 so you have me beat but now im fighting to keep my bf down because I don't have low test in the medical sense but I don't have the levels i should because I started when I was around 18 and when you get older it sucks when you start young so if you could get off the gear for awhile and just lift and enjoy it then when you get older use because you will need to from using when you were young like me and a couple other guys here. Then you need it to get your levels up.
Good luck to you brother keep killing it in the gym
young for aas.
good huge traps!
How old were you when you did your first cycle?
20