posted Sun, 01/13/2013 - 13:58
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2nd Cycle (TestE/EQ/Tbol)
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
6'2" 208 lbs BF 14%
Planning to bulk with this cycle. Despite my body fat % I'm not looking to get shredded.
I'm currently on TRT with .70 mg of Test Cyp weekly. I've been on TRT program for almost a year.
Is it necessary to take Test Prop if i'm on TRT for life?
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | HCG | Tbol | EQ | Adex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 800mg | 500UI | 50mg ED | 1200mg | .25mg EOD |
| 2 | 500mg | 500UI | 50mg ED | 600mg | .25mg EOD |
| 3 | 500mg | 500UI | 50mg ED | 600mg | .25mg EOD |
| 4 | 500mg | 500UI | 50mg ED | 600mg | .25mg EOD |
| 5 | 500mg | 500UI | 50mg ED | 600mg | .25mg EOD |
| 6 | 500mg | 500UI | 50mg ED | 600mg | .25mg EOD |
| 7 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 8 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 9 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 10 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 11 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 12 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 13 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 14 | 500mg | 500UI | 600mg | .25mg EOD | |
| 15 | 500mg | 500UI | .25mg EOD | ||
| 16 | 500mg | .25mg EOD | |||
| 17 | TRT | TRT | TRT | TRT | TRT |
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I wouldn't run hcg that long. You're trt...so hcg is just a nut plumper. Non trt folks use it last 8 Weeks on cycle to plump up.
Adex--you might run aromasin after adex . Did doc give you an ai protochol? Adex will drop that estro back into your system...estro rebound. Test will be high in your system for a good 2 Weeks after last pin. Estro never sleeps. Aromasin holds estro til its removed from your body...no rebound.
Anoni would run that hcg until 3 days before trt. hcg converts to estro, so your AI aspects should be more aggressive. i'd up the Adex to 0.5 e3day, or 0.25 EOD and what for sides. be sure to bridge that adex with aromasin leading into trt. when the active life of adex expires and/or the drug is discontinued, it will let go of the bound enzymes and renew cometition; therefore, increasing the likelihood of estro rebound.
Personally, I've found Tbol @ 80mg/day to be the sweet spot for me, but try it at 50mg, and see how you respond.
zewiSo do you want to drop fat% and gain bulk?? Or do you want straight bulk?
Muscleg33kstraight bulk while losing fat if possible
zewiwell than IMO...
1-4 Tbol @ 50mg ED
1-16 Test @ 400mg a week
1-16 EQ @ 600mg a week
Anonjust curious, but being second cycle, would this be a bit much? due to being on trt and ran one cycle, i'd say adding another compound wouldn't be a bad idea. i'm concerned about two new compounds starting at the same time. do you think he'll know which sides are from EQ and which are from tbol? what about saving tbol for the next cycle and going with something like this:
1-16 test 500mg
1-16 EQ 600mg (frontload first two weeks if he wants to kick sooner)
14-19 anavar 50-75 ED
17-19 prop taper (100mg EOD)
trt
i say this because i thnk it will give him time to become familiar with the EQ before introducing the var. this would still be in line with his overall goal of "getting shredded". the test should suffice for adding the bulk if the diet is right. then the taper to glide into trt.
zewiI understand what your saying..
However, tbol is relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of methandienone is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.)
So having sides from Tbol are going to be slim--He just needs to tak live 52
Looking at EQ wich has very little sides, at all i would not be worried--if it was Deca, than yes.
The two compounds he is using have very little side effects if any do to both have ing low androgen componet. EQ 50-Androgenic 100-Anabolic
In all honest the Test would give the most sides.
Also both Tbol and EQ are slow acting. It is not a major joilt to the body like Deca, tren 1 test and others.
Also the cycle you posted i like also--in relaity it comes down to what he wants to run. and IMO the compounds he chose is not bad. Even though i do agree in Adding one compound to learn at a time.
AnonOk. That makes sense. I had referred to the a/AA chart before posting. Wasn't sure how to factor that into sides tho.. But this makes sense.
Muscleg33kNo need to take Test Prop if i'm currently on TRT right?? If i wasn't cruising i would be on test PROP?
zewino--However a frontload would not be a bad idea,
1-1 EQ @ 1200mg---600mg monday 600mg thursday..
id even do the test
1-1 Test @ 800mg---400mg monday 400mg thursday
Muscleg33kNice.. i just updated my cycle log with your recommendation
zewiWhats your age if you dont mind me asking?
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