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I will post a pic tommorow to remind the fellow community of what hard work and good diet characteristics can get you lol
People are in for a big surprise lol no pun intended bahahaha
Any 1 have any experience with the oral metribolone?...I have experience with Dbol,Tbol n Superdrol...I saw this n was intrigued but wanted some feedback b4 I pull the trigger.
Very toxic, should only be used for short duration and at low dose. It's measured in micrograms for a good reason, i never used but probably never would. This compound is not for inexperienced user.
How well do you tolerate normal Trenbolone?
I ok with Tren sides...Just was wondering if this is stronger than running Dbol without the waterweight n estrogen build up...Is it more toxic 2 liver?...Not trying to have liver failure...lol
My bad. I only read the one post. Thought u were askin if tren was stronger then dbol... What u were actually askin. Yeah man, don't mess wit an oral that strong yet. Cause ur gonna hurt yaself. Not even gonna give any advice otha then research, research, research.... U only get 1 liver and the wait list is looooong for anotha one bud. If u choose to do it anyway. Jus be safe an do ur homework. We're here to help. But also for harm reduction
Not gonna give u shit. But def should do more research bud. 1st..yes..by alot! 2nd....u will have to worry about prolactin as well. Cabergoline 0.5mg e3d. An I wouldn't go above 200mg if ur jus startin off. Also, are u runnin an AI? An yes liver toxicity is possible. Liv52, Tudca or at the least milk thistle would benefit you durin cycle. Be smart and research anythin u put in ur body. Gauge how u react and keep safe
Its actually nothing like tren . ill get jumped on for this prob. Once you methylate something it changes completely . d bol is methylated equipoise for instance .
The fact you are asking if it is stronger than Dbol clearly shows to me you are nowhere near ready to use it. You need to spend hours reading up on all the compounds and what they are used for first.
Agreed
Gotta do your research brother mtren is supposedly one of the MOST toxic for the liver. Wouldn’t personally use recreationally. Prep only. But your body your choice!
Ive used johns oral metrib pre workout only . its pretty rowdy. Look to hit a PR that day . ive read about good results as a muscle builder at higher doses and split throughout the day . ive only used it pwo but its strong shit. I ve been sitting on the injectable one for a minute . just working the balls up lol
I would compare the oral to halotestin
Lmk if you get to that injectable brother, been looking for feedback on it. I grabbed a bottle to see what it can do the last few weeks of prep for my show this summer
Halotestin would be my choice last 2 weeks
I have that as well brother. Last show I ran tren and mast 300mg each per week. Last 4 weeks winstrol. Last 2 weeks added halo in. Last week added Sdrol.
Considering the latter two are toxic enough, I wasnt even sure Mtren would fit in any way or make sense. Although luckily my labs have always looked great 2-4 weeks post show and liver rebounds quick. Never had any significant/dramatic sides I’ve heard people talk about.
As always I believe liver toxicity is overstated
I just read on another forum about a guy using 4mg a day with no crazy liver values . unless you're predisposed and depending on your lifestyle its not as bad as they make it sound . if you can tolerate halo and superdrol you will be fine
Chances of that shit being legitimately dosed though are slim to none because if you look at the research done way back when it was first synthesized liver toxicity, and more so liver cysts and tumors, occurred at standard pharmacological dosing.
4 mg is reckless and irresponsible, i read some guys putting a loaded weapon their heads and blowing thier brains out but this is a bad idea, just as bad as 4 mgs daily. Im willing to bet 4 mg daily did very little to improve thier physique. You can f yourself up in this game not being smart.
Def not bud. Every pharmaceutical, every supplement, aka "drug" has it's own physiological effect on the body. That is why there are warnings on labels. Even OTC. Sadly we do not get those with anabolics. We just need to research and learn from each other. But sayin that liver toxicity is overstated is surely wrong, especially when it is comin to the most liver toxic oral compound around. Second to Mtest and Halotestin, even Drol and SD on the mid range.
You have to realize there are newbies jus jumpin on these forums. Who go by bro science and when they see "toxicity is understated" that's good enough for them to go ahead an add it into there cycle. I know ya didn't mean anythin malicious, but jus be cautious of what you post because people will see it and they do believe it
Absolute Utter RUBBISH!! - I ended up in Hospital in ER with a massively enflamed liver from running Dbol and Tren with no liver protection because I was under this stupid illusion also. On the day I went in I could no longer eat from extreme stomach and liver pain, I was in shock when they told me this was why it was. When they checked my liver enzymes and values I was just below being in liver failure ranges. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS take TUDCA when using any oral even Dbol. Tren also massively stresses it by blocking bile ducts and causing it to rise up through other organs. When I read comments like this it enrages me ......
Enraged as you are its still genetic bro . look up prescribed dosages for anadrol for long term use . some are more predisposed than others for liver damage . always pull bloods and never let it get that far . I would never tell anyone to do anything without bloods . im glad that you healed up and are good now . Thats a shitty thing to go through.
Yeah yeah yeah I've seen those 'studies' on anadrol also, I've also seen the studies saying tren doesn't affect the liver too but it does. They are ALL damaging Toxic chemicals going through the liver. But then as you say, don't worry about it and go with the Bro science ...... You'll be fine, overstated.
Bro science ? I said get blood work . im not gonna litter an si page with a debate . getting bloods is the best thing to do. All I said . I also agree that liver support supps are necessary
. I dont come on here to be combative or argue with people.
We re all like minded and here to help each other. have a good day bro
Don't be putting up stupid comments like your first one then.
Tren definitely is toxic in any form thats why many people feel like shit on it. Im glad you talk about liver aids, i am very big on these, along with many other vits and min.
So it pretty well recovered? Mine were high last month and had a little pain sleeping on
My side but it is gone now. Going back in for bloods around the first. Running ala TUDCA NAC SAM-E milk thistle and injectable Gunthanone or however you spell it. I feel better but didn’t know how much it could recover. Also wondering if TUDCA only helps liver while running oral or it helps after the fact too?
Just got the J and J vaccine, 1 and done. Happy about that. Tall good looking chick sitting next to me in leggings in the recovery room. Things could be worse lol.
Bud I was 1 week off going in for a Biopsy when I went back for test results and things healed massively within 4 weeks believe it or not. I had to instantly drop everything I was on and drop down to a low dose of Test prop so I could still somewhat function. The specialist there said Test only was no problem on the liver. I loaded up everyday on the TUDCA & NAC and drank cranberry all day long Lol Went in for various blood tests over the month and prayed to God - Then was told he wanted to do a Biopsy to see what stage we were at. It apparently takes 4 weeks for the liver to completely regenerate itself, the only organ that can do it. Kidneys and heart forget it, once they are damaged no going back. I then ran no orals for about another 8 months, just Test and NPP here and there. All my legs and ankles were full of water also to the point of barely being able to walk - I calculated there was about 4 litres of water in there as my electrolytes were all knackered too.
Damn brother, I’m glad you made it back from that. Cranberry helps too? Or was that more for kidneys. She want to to an ultrasound too, but it being over here I said let’s just see what the bloods show then decide on the ultrasound so maybe I don’t have to pay for both if the bloods are good.
Bud I truly believe if you are gonna get into this game properly you better get use to having blood taken and being in Hospitals, once you start doing more than a handful of cycles its gonna start affecting your health one way or another. Supplementing with the essentials to protect yourself as you know too is the best we can do.