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roidville007's picture

when is MAST E available? i need to order some soon. thanks

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Hey homies- looking for some insight. Firstly, we are all different, as we know. I get that. Just looking for the experience of others.

I'm currently taking mast prop 100mg eod & deca 250 pw. Ive slowly dropped my test over the last two weeks. Additionally ive been using HCG to aid fertility.

Before anyone flames me, I'm one of the people that feel fantastic on deca/npp only. Ive cruised on deca for long periods of time. I have major problems with dislocations and neurological issues that have caused massive seizures and broken my shoulders in the past, extra joint cushioning goes a loooong way.

As far as i know, deca converts to e2 at roughly half the rate of test. I only started dropping my test two weeks ago. I AM getting bloodwork but havent recently.

Out of nowhere- i got very sore in my joints, super constipated, weak orgasms and low sensitivity etc... clearly TANKed my e2. I always thought mast drys you up, hardens you and is a nice "feel good" compound with little sides (unless DHT is a problem)

Has anyone ever tanked e2 of only MAST?? I never need an AI to begin with and do not have high e2 to begin with. But i would think deca and a lot of HCG would have left me some estrogens in my body

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Bigpoppapropionate's picture

Mast could definitely be the reason if e2 tanked since you say you lowered test, also the deca could be causing prolactin sides that combined with crashed estro could be why you're feeling this way. I personally love masteron, but it has powerful anti estro properties that effect everyone different, maybe add decent amount of test back or check everything on bloods, good luck bro.

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mikegilbert1986's picture

Absolutly... also i always use cabar when useing deca or tren, we dont want to take a chance haveing milk come out are nips, thats would be pretty bad

Bigpoppapropionate's picture

Yeah what you said was spot on, funny these dudes got butthurt, I mean cutting out your test to run a deca only cycle with mast? Wtf? Then wondering why you're feeling like crap is pretty funny☺️

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mikegilbert1986's picture

But mast def as anti estrogen in its self ive always felt that way useing mast.. i didnt mean to callbyou stupid or put you down man my appolagy. But i would def recomand atleast useing 100mg a week at the least because deca or any compand will surpress your test production... and i have heard this alot.. you know slowly tapering off test really means nothing as long as you are useing test at any level your natty test will not produce it wont start produceing if you tapper it wont start untill you stop useing test you know.. so i can see if you went useing anything at all and you started deca that your natty test would be good for awil but at some point the deca will start negitive impact on your hormones

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This is a very strange statement, you've never heard of masteron which some use as an AI if test is run low enough to crash e2? Then if anything it should help it is dht? You realize crash means lowering too low right? And this guy has lowered test with deca, you don't see how mast would crash e2 when just using mast can crash e2 even with trt doses.

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press1's picture

Masteron helps increase oestrogen as it is a DHT?? Thats one of the best I've heard yet...

mikegilbert1986's picture

Running deca alone is gonne shut down your natty test at some point.. point blank nobody supper boy nobodys gonna bang gear say fxxx test and have healthy natty test levels whil taken gear what do you mean for some it worka sounds stupid... it is what it is theres no mister magic dude

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Yeah I don't get that at all, then telling someone else that there statement shows how educated he is, what that guy was saying was right! Lol although he said it with attitude, people read these type of post and it's hard not to want to roast someone, smh.

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Jpfity's picture

Right ? That's been my understanding as well

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mikegilbert1986's picture

You dont cycle anything with out test that is just stupid... deca is known for sexual disfunction and without test duhhh come on man what do you expect your doing this to your self.. deca without test is stupid ofcourse your have sexual probs absolutly..

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I appreciate that so much my dude I was literally just driving through town with the wife getting some food and telling her about how funny I find it when people say things like that. I've been on this form for a long time and gotten so much help from it and she knows as much about broscience as any of us. Whenever we hit Google about something health-related especially on this kind of topic we hit up this forum first

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Jpfity's picture

My man! Lol

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Jpfity's picture

Appreciate the help but you didnt read my post. I've been deca only for long term hrt in the past. I do fantastic. Morning wood every day, no bloat, strong appetite... You name it. EVERY ONE IS DIFFERENT. You know this.

I'm sorry to be so long winded. It might have gotten lost within the first post- i was asking who might have crashed e2 with mast. Some believe it to be bro science but for me at least it was plausible.

Has it happened? How did you fix it? How did you know? I appreciate all the input

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