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Very interesting bro. Thanks for the explanation and sharing your findings
the oils used in gear can fuck with a labmax test. I don't think you can draw any real conclusion from the texture....
simply put, if the colour codes don't match with the chart then you got a bogus product. I beg to differ that the rumour floating around on forums that oil tampers with results is more so coming perhaps from a source or sources!
ive confirmed at least 3 primo not what they should be. 2 consisted of test in them. one had eq. also had a masteron I tested yesterday which was also eq.
all the pharma stuff ive tested came back exactly as shown on labmax website. stanol, blue hearts, alpha halo, alpha primo, alpha test cyp just to name a few that came back spot on. I know med tech clen is ugl but that also was spot on. ive tested ugl deca and most returned a perfect green, compare it to organon deca and you drop a sample and it rapidly turns bright green.
when a product has inconsistent colours and doesn't seem right then you can bet it aint right. just look at wedinos website, how many ugl products (even fake pharma gear) were bogus, not what the label stated at all. put them through a labmax test and you get bogus reading. so I don't really think the oil/carrier has anything to do with it, its more so contaminents or powders cut back. their is no reason why primo would have traces of blue-green (testosterone) in it.
like I said, its a useful tool for reassurance, its better than nothing and cost something like $15 per sample. you would rather do the test rather than get burnt hundreds or thousands of dollars not to mention the time and hassle wasted trying to get outcomes.
I personally purchased it as im competing in a few weeks and last thing I wanted is to be using something it wasn't, worse case no active ingredient.
and no, im not a rep for labmax,lol. you never know thoughts people have on here these days.
After reading your two responses, I whole heartedly agree. I can tell you are being honest and I know those kits work. I know someone that tests with them. AND if you find pharma gear online, 99.9% of it is legit just cuz it costs more money to counterfeit as it does to just sell the real shit.
AnonIs this a joke? you can,t be being serious, April fools is gone brother...........
Everyone is such an 'expert' on eroids any more now. If ALL OF YOU guys are such professionals at running steroids then why the fuck are you on Internet boards buying it and talking bout it. Get the fuck outta here lol
Anon;)
99.9% ? Strong statistics lol dude there's fuck loads of fake pharma shit out there. If you get it from a good source then that's a diff story but thats exactly why it's faked because people can sell it for so much more.
As far as lab max it's ok, but it's not the be all end all, It's better than nothing but it's over hyped in my opinion and the main problem with it is it doesn't tell you how strong or pure the fear you're using is. You could have tren underdosed by more than 50% and it would still pass a lab max test.
Muj is right here. I tested variety of amps and when I say they looked spot on identical to the real deal you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. labmax told me otherwise.
you got a better chance with ugl product coming from a reputable source and someone you trust rather than pharma amps and gear UNLESS its coming directly from the chemists hands and into your hands.
keep in mind, chemists only stock a very small margin of roids, doesn't matter which country it is so you kind of question yourself how the hell is the blackmarket stocking more pharma gear than chemists? that enough to turn you off from purchasing pharma gear.so just be careful. they put a lot of time and effort to make these bogus products and their very convincing but yeah bigger profit margins if you nail it and produce perfect counterfeits.
yeah muj I agree with you, their so much labmax can answer for you and a test suggesting dosage would be prime but sadly all we can go off is what is contained in a vial, to me that is very useful. with dosing, being a steroid user for years you kind of work out whats been dosed right and if the compiound is what it is, becomes a second nature. but if your one of those guys running 5 compounds per cycle you will never learn how each steroid works and how you react to it.
the other problem im seeing is labs mixing 2 compounds per vial. came to my attention while going over wedinos samples. its ridiculous even test cut back with tren or deca. explains why some people suggest one lab test was better than the other. in turn the one feeling weaker might have actually been 100% test and dosed right but not getting same results with something cut back with decent dose of tren cause then that's where things begin to differ. if you can ever run a cycle with straight pharma test do it and use it as a reference to what you buy from ugl labs.
100% agreed brother
AnonPM me, I'll let you know.
PS...... your alpha amps are fine fella just a slightly newer batch and they come with the check authenticity on the ampoule as well.
I used trenarapid and testobolin last cycle all from MD all codes checked on alpha website and gained about 15lbs. I still have 2amps left in the box if you need a pic?
Telford786I have ordered a lot of alpha gear from MD never been disappointed it's outstanding gear and has stood the test of time.
will u ever sell ostarine?
After the whole issue with am tech, decided to mainly use pharma gear from now on, placed an order with MD for some alpha parabolin. Can anybody who's used this say how its compared to the typical ug labs tren?
bigurielI'm not sure some shady company in India classifies as "pharma".
But that's just me, when I think "pharma" I think something you really could get from a local pharmacy in Europe or the USA, like Organon or Pfizer, and even then I would only trust it to be "pharma" if you got it from a pharmacy. Wedinos was full of samples of "pharma" gear with "no active substance found".
No saying Alpha isn't good, only that I wouldn't call it pharmaceutical grade myself.
used it last year.....worked incredibly good at only 2-3 cc's per week (ca.160-240mg).....hunger , strengh , metabolism and sex drive went through the roof.....before that i used only titan-healthcare para at the same dosage wich was equally good as alpha.....but you know some people are beginning to have issues with alpha , it's no 100% safe buy , but in general i would highly recommend them.....
What issues you heard about Bro?keep us in the loop
nothing special , just that some people seem to have gotten bad batches ......
Just what I wanted to hear mate, excited to try this stuff out for myself.
alrite bro..i haven't ran alpha parabolin but i have ran alpha trenarapid and that was amazing tren. best tren i have ran to be honest. only needed 525mg a week and i usually use 700mg ew and it was still better. if it helps i also got it from MD and all came back legit ran it with testobolin. just ordered some testobolin and androxine for this cycle.
cheers man, was considering the trenarapid but don't think I can quite budget for it haha.the androxine and para should be plenty. trenarapid should be basically the same raws quality as the parabolin I figure, so good to know it was that strong.
Mate alpha ain't pharmacy gear it's a ugl
Well whatever it is, it does have a rep of being well dosed gear, I know a similar type of pharma/ugl in baltic pharma was shown to have its tren hex accurately dosed by mass spec on another forum. But I've heard all sorts of reviews on it, all positive mind, but some saying its 2-3 x stronger than other labs tren, and others saying its about the same, so wanting to make sure its worth the extra money.
I've used baltic para and that stuff was extremely strong! 2amps a week was more than enough but only problem with baltic was they came in boxes of 3 and some boxes was good and some was bunk...I've also had alpha para but unfortunately I got from a local source and they was fake or bunk or whatever but I'm currently on alpha test cyp and it's amazing...never ordered alpha from md but he's my go too guy for it now...I've had many friends recommend him
Yeh that's what I'd heard. People run 700mg plus of other labs tren (I know I've ran a bit more than that) but talk about getting great results from about 150mg or 200mg of alpha or baltic so figured I'd find out for myself, see if the hypes justified. Yeah, I've never had any issues with md prior to this am tech thing, but one small hiccup like this isn't going to change my opinion on him as a solid source who I would trust to carry legit alpha products.
Alpha Pharma tren is good, and the product from MD can be verified on the Alpha website using scratch codes.
There was actually a bad batch of Tren raws a few months ago and Alpha stopped making any for this reason, so it goes to show it's good quality.
It's a 'posh' UGL.
Yeah I'd heard that on another forum too, most sources seem to be out of alpha's tren, was glad md still had some left. The thing is I've ran tren from some fairly well regarded uk labs at pretty crazy doses and never had any sides, still sleep fine, no extra sweating, hair loss, acne or anything, got decent positive effects from it but not quite what I'd have expected considering the doses I ran. Wasn't sure if I just had a very high tolerance to it or if the tren wasn't as good as it should be. Figured I'd run the alpha stuff at 3 amps a week and see how it compared.
Hi MD, any news on the AM-rip? Ive stopped using mine due to no effects whatsoever.
lool im guessing mine is bunk, used it once and did nothing. Just gave me hella pip for 4 days