posted Sun, 08/26/2012 - 06:12
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The point I'm making is this: I understand wanting to use old labels, fine. But why put the lot number on the label if there is no intention of changing the label when brewing a new lot. Seems that putting the lot number is simply a gimmick to make it look more official.
I've noticed this with other ugl's not just MD.
label means shit. period. best gear I use to get was unlabeled. its the new generation who expect fancy labels, barcodes and shit nowadays and forget that its what is in the bottle that's important.
MD has a tonne of labels and caps lying around and obviously just getting rid of them, simple as that. not sure why people questioning this now.lol
I cant believe im doing this but i actually couldnt agree more. For the longest time the best labs i have ever used had only crappy crooked labrls and no boxes. MDs gear was some of the nicest packaged gear i have used. Thst being said the best gear i ever used was a lab that used NO labels at all. Each compound had a diff colored cap...not even a name on it.
Do you work directly for MD or does he just supply you with incentives for constantly defending him on this discussion page? Sometimes you say perfectly sensible stuff ie regarding long/short term esters and are a credit to the forum, other times you just want to belittle other people . I would have thought the source would want to disassociate himself from the 'bad batch' and provide new lot numbers. He began sending them out 3 weeks after stating he was putting normal orders behind this issue and prioritising it, which was not true. You may well be a seasoned pro with multiple titles etc but that doesn't mean you know everything about everything. I'm sure everyone at your gym bows down to your extensive knowledge but have you ever considered that the majority of people here unhappy with how poor communication and service has been from this source MAY indicate that we have a right to voice it? In a democracy I'm afraid you only have one vote and you're pretty much on your own
no doubt about it, I agree with you, communication and service has been poor for a while, I myself have experience this on 2 occasions recently so definitely not saying MD is straight A, but then a lot of people also said he wouldn't be sending out replacements nor would he rectify the problem but yet replacements sent out. maybe not instantly but something been done about it. all I can see is that everything will pan out, including communication and service. patience is the key.
as for the gear sent out now, I think everyone should shut up for the moment, start running it when convenient and get some bloods done. that will only really tell the true story. for now its all skeptism.
Now I've seen posts from you on other discussion pages and you always come across like you are now, which I appreciate. I personally think it's commendable in this business to be replacing anything, it's black market business so to be professional enough to offer replacements is fantastic. The lot number issue I agree will probably be down to having large stocks with that reference on them. What I do think however is communication is key. If MD had said replacements were being sent asap rather than giving timescale, but gear would have same packaging though, that would have cleared up about 5 pages of dispute and arguing.
And before you start calling me names like you do generally, your stats seriously need updating. You've won loads of titles but you're 5ft 8 and weigh 80kg at 8% bodyfat? That's lower than my stats before I touched steroids. Unless you're a fitness competitor? With so many titles I'm assuming these profile figures are wrong. Would be good to add self picture if you're at such an elite level (just hide the face/obvious things like tattoos)
those stats not real. im not stupid enough to post up info on a site like this. send me email and I wills end you photo and would expect to do the same so I can see where you going with your gear use.
I didn't think the stats were correct! I don't doubt you have titles etc, that wasn't my point, apologies if it sounded that way. It would just be good to see the stats of a competitive bodybuilder etc. My picture on here is myself being a bit fat and out of shape as motivation to push myself. My training isn't where it should be at the moment and I've certainly never competed (although been told by trainer of several competing guys where I used to live that he would love to train me). I haven't got the discipline to be honest
Haven't seen very many replacement packs landing lately. I thought maybe he had it straitened out but I'm second guessing that now
How confident are we that there's test in the new test e replacements?
As the lot numbers are the same I assume he just took them off site and left for a while before sending out the same shit. He's made up enough crap the rare times he's posted, lied comfortably about sending stuff out and when sending and said was delaying other items to prioritise this issue. I'm still waiting on my replacements but won't waste my time until someone comes back with bloods
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AnonYou would think that but maybe just maybe he had a shed load of labels left over and caps and didn't wanna go with the extra expense of printing off any new and sorting out different colour caps.
Don't get me wrong I'm sceptical as you but you never know people do some strange shit.
PS I'm not sticking up for him he brought it on him self and I never got stung but blood's will tell the truth fella.
On a side note I just dropped my 10 ounce sirloin steak on the floor and I'm real fuckin pissed at the moment.
Agreed.... Labs buy there bottle/labels/caps on the 1000s, so I know if I had loads left over I'd use them all up...
However I do see the sceptical reasoning with same batch no etc as proves most UGL batch no are a load of bollox lol.
Ha, steak isn't part of the 5 second rule either...
Yeah you're right, it may just be as you said. if he had sent a message via a mod or replied to direct emails I wouldn't even think anything less of him, but that's what annoyed me; MD made assurances and not kept them. I know he's trying to build AM tech's brand but it's the service that's made him look shit, not the error. It was a mistake. We all make them. But to say you were sending replacements when in truth that didn't happen for weeks after is just a lie. He can't log in, I don't believe that. I've sent emails which are ignored unless there's no mention of AM tech.
I know this may sound stupid to some, but I'm raising my daughter to know it's ok to make mistakes, break stuff etc, as long as you don't do it deliberately. The one thing she knows not to do is lie about it cos if I find out I won't be happy! Maybe I'm expecting too much, but I know other sources on here which have resolved in a few minutes.
Ya I noticed the lot numbers are the exact same. I was hoping for some difference, either lot number or different color cap or something to suggest a different batch.
I think I'll be like you and wait for bloods or at least other members reports.
The good news in all this is it has pushed me towards other sources and I think I've found some winners
zhaomeng0904Still not receive any replacement yet.
Well I guess I just got the 3 tren a, not the 4 tren e I was promised. Oh well. Moving on.
received nothing until yet.........
Same. Ordered in the very beginning of March. What about you?
ordered 2.2.15
Beginning of February...don't even know if we have to sign for these replacements either. To be honest I was supportive of MD. Now I don't believe anything he says, but then he's not speaking lo anyone!
Day 4 with replaced Tren A.
150mg ed. 250mg Test e6d.
Before: 150mg ed British Dragon and Gentech.
Since I use AM TECH, the urin has darken, night sweats increased and insomnia increased. Strength goes up a bit.
Maybe its to early to say sth, but this what happened...
Sounds promising but thats alot of tren brother...lol
gram+ of tren....YIKES!! Better make that 4-5 weeks TOTAL...and lipids will be trashed for a few months lol
Brave! I'm currently running high tren at 200mg eod and that's way more than I usually do, usually 400-500mg a week at most. At least won't be long before sees effects!
I've gone upwards of 900mg. Won't do that ever again. Results...eh, not bad...but long term issues I think, like now I have initiated a lifetime battle with my BP. Using E from now on...tops 400-500mg/wk for 6 weeks
Less tren with the longer esters for one thing, less spiking etc. Blood pressure I've had outside of range for years, until taking herbal stuff with ALA, Hawthorne berry, drinking nettle tea etc. And within a week I'm at 134/84 at last count. Lowest I've been since I remember. Wouldn't believe it unless I hadn't seen it on the monitor. Was lower than that before I went to bed last night. Time will tell what happens when I come off this herbal blend though!
E for 6 weeks? Its just getting started....