Zyklon labs is closed permanently, Zyklon was brewed by a team that has now split up.I am currently talking to one of the brewers about doing their own line. Once they set up a lab production of a new comparable line should start. fingers crossed bud I will keep everyone posted
X, I hope when the tests come back you are vindicated. You have always been straight with me and I have always received the gear I ordered. I will say I hope you reconsider Zyklon. That is damn good gear.
There is a simpler solution to all this being said about his gear being bunk or underdosed...Bloodwork.
you guys spend hundreds of dollars on gear, maybe the same on supps yet can't spend a measly 50 or 60 on a blood test? I'm not nuthugging I'm just stating a fact that you guys could be killing this guy without any proof. Get some bloodwork and post them for everyone to see so we can put this to rest. I'm concerned as well because I have a bunch of his gear but in the past 2 years i never had a problem. That doesn't mean there could'nt be one now because business is business in this game.
I am letting him handle it as it is not my business. Read through some pics and posts of people complaining of underdosed gear and such where tests were done and proven otherwise; bloodtests and gear tests.
I have been reading sir and again I welcome your suggestion. But getting bloods done won't clear up the complaints of some. However, testing the gear in question in my opinion is the best approach to fix this issue. I have reviewed X's Zyklon line of orals and oils and was very pleased. He even sent me extra dbol with an order so there is no hate/anger in my blood for his source. I would like to see him doing good business and being a source that thrives in this community.
I put x on the type that he would try and fix the situation. X is good people in the end I hope it works out on both sides. Buddha your good people too brotha...the voice of reason.
The 50-60$ blood test is the female hormone panel, it only measures test up to 1500. To get an exact number you have to pay more, closer to 150 if I'm not mistaken. The issue is even with the gear under dosed, running it at 750mg/week will get you a 1500 number. So it doesn't really prove or disprove anything in less you spend the 150$.
I got the female hormone panel done at Private MD. My testosterone was 2070, using X's line of test E, and deca at 50mg each, twice a week. I'm a newbie, not a fan-boy, just throwing it out there.
Interesting, but any of the 3 times I've got the female hormone panel done it maxes out at 1500. I wish it said the real number that'd be much more helpful.
I assume you mean 500mg, not 50mg 2 times a week. I still think the number should have been higher at those doses, again I could be wrong.
I started on the testosterone at 100mg, every other week for low T therapy. That raised my T to 635.
I have a neuro-muscular disease similar to muscular dystrophy, that causes severe weakness. I had used Winstrol at a low dose years ago, that helped me greatly, but more T, plus deca seems a better choice.
That explains the low dose, though I plan to increase it to 100mg, twice a week.
As for my levels being hearsay, I'll see if I can edit out my personal info, and try to figure out how to post the labs. If it turns into a pain, screw it. I don't have a horse in this race. I'm just a guy trying to learn a little, and feel strong enough to get outta bed every day.
I never meant you are lying, honestly. Most people want hard proof. One of my good friends has md, its not pretty and he also takes low dose deca and test c. If you are unable to do so no worries.
Damn man what a bust. I feel for you that might've got bad gear but Imo when I ordered from x, I got quality gear...maybe some of you did get some bad gear and others are now trying to take advantage and get some free gear. You guys can read for yourselves...he's making an attempt to give you guys a better quality product if you handle the issue in a professional manner. Give the guy a break and let em try to prove you wrong...
StevebZyklon was great. Any chance of it coming back?
Zyklon labs is closed permanently, Zyklon was brewed by a team that has now split up.I am currently talking to one of the brewers about doing their own line. Once they set up a lab production of a new comparable line should start. fingers crossed bud I will keep everyone posted
Wow. That sucks, but such is life. Thanks for giving us the scoop.
Anonwelcome back lol
StevebLOL, did you miss me? I was only gone 6 hours.
AnonJust seen you were banned lol. You must of pissed someone off hahahaha
X, I hope when the tests come back you are vindicated. You have always been straight with me and I have always received the gear I ordered. I will say I hope you reconsider Zyklon. That is damn good gear.
zyklon is one of my favorites. I loved the ph 100. that shit had me fired up. I hope they make a return.
There is a simpler solution to all this being said about his gear being bunk or underdosed...Bloodwork.
you guys spend hundreds of dollars on gear, maybe the same on supps yet can't spend a measly 50 or 60 on a blood test? I'm not nuthugging I'm just stating a fact that you guys could be killing this guy without any proof. Get some bloodwork and post them for everyone to see so we can put this to rest. I'm concerned as well because I have a bunch of his gear but in the past 2 years i never had a problem. That doesn't mean there could'nt be one now because business is business in this game.
AnonPlease let the source handle his business issues. We all do appreciate your feedback
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I am letting him handle it as it is not my business. Read through some pics and posts of people complaining of underdosed gear and such where tests were done and proven otherwise; bloodtests and gear tests.
AnonI have been reading sir and again I welcome your suggestion. But getting bloods done won't clear up the complaints of some. However, testing the gear in question in my opinion is the best approach to fix this issue. I have reviewed X's Zyklon line of orals and oils and was very pleased. He even sent me extra dbol with an order so there is no hate/anger in my blood for his source. I would like to see him doing good business and being a source that thrives in this community.
C'mon Buddha, he does have a point and YOU could stand to take your own advice and let X handle his own business
AnonI'm out........good luck everyone
I put x on the type that he would try and fix the situation. X is good people in the end I hope it works out on both sides. Buddha your good people too brotha...the voice of reason.
Anonappreciate that Simon.....always good to see you on the boards.
The 50-60$ blood test is the female hormone panel, it only measures test up to 1500. To get an exact number you have to pay more, closer to 150 if I'm not mistaken. The issue is even with the gear under dosed, running it at 750mg/week will get you a 1500 number. So it doesn't really prove or disprove anything in less you spend the 150$.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I got the female hormone panel done at Private MD. My testosterone was 2070, using X's line of test E, and deca at 50mg each, twice a week. I'm a newbie, not a fan-boy, just throwing it out there.
What lab are you saying only measures to 1500?
Interesting, but any of the 3 times I've got the female hormone panel done it maxes out at 1500. I wish it said the real number that'd be much more helpful.
I assume you mean 500mg, not 50mg 2 times a week. I still think the number should have been higher at those doses, again I could be wrong.
I really do mean 50mg, twice a week.
I started on the testosterone at 100mg, every other week for low T therapy. That raised my T to 635.
I have a neuro-muscular disease similar to muscular dystrophy, that causes severe weakness. I had used Winstrol at a low dose years ago, that helped me greatly, but more T, plus deca seems a better choice.
That explains the low dose, though I plan to increase it to 100mg, twice a week.
As for my levels being hearsay, I'll see if I can edit out my personal info, and try to figure out how to post the labs. If it turns into a pain, screw it. I don't have a horse in this race. I'm just a guy trying to learn a little, and feel strong enough to get outta bed every day.
Oh okay that makes a lot more sense! Well I'm glad you found something that works for you my man!!
I never meant you are lying, honestly. Most people want hard proof. One of my good friends has md, its not pretty and he also takes low dose deca and test c. If you are unable to do so no worries.
I didn't mean it to sound like that, sorry.
I'm also sorry that I can't figure out how to post my labs.
Besides, a guy with one karma point is ALWAYS a reliable source of information, right?
You should post it if you can; hearsay is not enough proof.
Agreed; since it's a matter of he said she said it clears everything up. 150 versus 1000 in gear or even 500 is a small price to pay for sanity.
rlbnll562Damn man what a bust. I feel for you that might've got bad gear but Imo when I ordered from x, I got quality gear...maybe some of you did get some bad gear and others are now trying to take advantage and get some free gear. You guys can read for yourselves...he's making an attempt to give you guys a better quality product if you handle the issue in a professional manner. Give the guy a break and let em try to prove you wrong...
3PUMPCHUMPI commend X for making an attempt to at least address the situation professionally.
I agree
I will miss zyklon labs....very sad that they are done.